[Jack Ian]

Hillary can never, like John Kerry, erase the Northeast liberal tag no matter what her position of the moment is.
Besides she would also lose Hispanic swing votes. why bother anyways she is unelectable especially against McCain or Rudy. Rudy is competitive in the Northeast, where Dem's have to win, and McCain would beat her in California.
She is an afterthought by 2008. Also would Red Stater's want Slick Bill back in the white House chasing interns again. NO

[hchutch]

If Dubya can convince Jeb to run in `08, that's another sure win, I think.

Locks up Florida (where Jeb has a high approval rating), and that means the Dems have to run the table in the upper Midwest. Build up a good ground game in Ohio, and Jeb would probably win while holding all of the `04 states.