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Science Shows That Homosexuals Are Not "Born That Way."
December 13, 2004

Posted on 12/13/2004 9:51:59 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If they are "born that way", then how does that explain the 'LUG' (Lesbian Until Graduation) crowd? :-)


101 posted on 12/13/2004 11:40:17 AM PST by who knows what evil? (If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
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To: elmer fudd

Big time wrong on one of your points my friend. God cares very deeply about your sex life. If you think otherwise, you are reading the Bible with a very big eraser in your hand.


102 posted on 12/13/2004 11:44:45 AM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: missyme
they walked up to anybody standing around and asked them to do the wild thing before they even new there name and BAM! they were off...

Okay, stop. Now you are just making us envious that women largely won't act in the same way at parties.
103 posted on 12/13/2004 11:54:05 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...

>> As far celibacy goes, this is not something that is mandated for priest in scripture at all. <<

Well, actually Paul DOES recommend chastity for those who are capable of controlling their passions and wish to devote their lives to the service of Christ. The Roman Catholic Church's Western (Latin) Patriarchy, in its prudence, decided that it would be best to choose such people for the priesthood. The matter is strictly prudential, and is not doctrine. But it is a prudence which adheres to the advice of St. Paul.

At the same time, the Catholic Church has emphasized that one need not be a priest to demonstarte devotion to God. Men and women who chose parenthood over the "religious life" have been made canonical saints (a recognition that they have placed service God above all else in their lives). But a father must place the needs of those whom God has entrusted to him through parenthood and the sacrament of marriage above the needs of everyone else, and so the Western Church deems it best to select those who have placed parochial ministry above all else.

What IS truly tragic is the notion, which was apparently commonly held among religious Catholic homophiles in America that being a priest is a fall-back position for those who are incapable of marriage.


104 posted on 12/13/2004 11:58:53 AM PST by dangus
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

From the time my younger brother was about 6, we knew he was a fruiter. He didn't disappoint. That boy is queerer than Liberace. And he would tell you that he was always ALWAYS a fag, and that it was never a choice.


105 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:18 PM PST by MAWG (Arafat, Kerry and now Rather..... I'll drink to that!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; starfish923; dangus; Servant of the 9; EdReform
No one knows the combination of factors creating homosexuality. All studies to date seem to suffer from sampling problems. I struggle even to follow the reasoning of the analysis of the data that exists.

I've gone through one analysis of studies from Colombia & Yale and another from Cambridge. The latter concludes that, "…it seems reasonable to conclude that male homosexuality, or, at least, some 'types' of male homosexuality, are under some degree of genetic control, although various problems with this data prevent more precise conclusions from being drawn.

The former goes a step or two further toward environment and says that the data is inconstant with a simple genetic influence model", that "there's substantial support for the role of social influences ", and that "its consistent with a general model that allows for genetic expression of same-sex attraction under specific, highly circumscribed, social conditions." "

106 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:38 PM PST by elfman2
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Since they weren't born that way, were they sucked into it? :^D


107 posted on 12/13/2004 12:04:31 PM PST by 82Marine89 (Robin Hood was a democrat.)
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To: MAWG

I have a relative who has said the same thing. He says that he has known from a very early age.


108 posted on 12/13/2004 12:06:19 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: TerP26
I mean you can find tons of animals that exhibit in same-sex behavior

You mean the ones observed in zoo's or in the wild? See any parallels from prison inmates in long term incarceration? You've been had.

109 posted on 12/13/2004 12:06:26 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: MAWG; BikerNYC
I have a relative who has said the same thing. He says that he has known from a very early age.

Ummmm... what else do you expect them to say?

If a thief tells you that he just knew that he was meant to steal since the age of 4 do we then accept what they say as truth and help them lead their "genetically forced lifestyle" of stealing?

What about the people who have sex with farm animals and claim that they wanted to do Porky Pig since they were three? Should we accept and endorse their behavior? It certainly "does no harm" to others, as the homosexual lobby would say.

110 posted on 12/13/2004 12:22:43 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Do you have a sibling that you know well enough to know whether or not they are lying?

He doesn't know what causes those feelings any more than he knows what causes any person to feel anything. He simply tells me that he has had those feelings from a very early age. I believe him.
111 posted on 12/13/2004 12:27:43 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC

Oh yes..The only thing that heterosexual guys envy about homosexuals is the ability for Queers to come on like gang busters straight to the point when there looking for some extra curricular activity....

No beating around the fluff and stuff bush with them...


112 posted on 12/13/2004 12:28:00 PM PST by missyme
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Baby raping pedophiles believe that they are born that way

So does hog and horse lovers, simply madness, these people once worked in the circus...


113 posted on 12/13/2004 12:32:07 PM PST by missyme
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To: BikerNYC
He simply tells me that he has had those feelings from a very early age. I believe him.

And you just accept that at face value? What did you do to help your brother turn away from his perversion? Nothing? I suggest your were either too lazy or too indifferent to help him, it must be easier to believe homosexual propaganda than to investigate the root cause. Too bad for him.

114 posted on 12/13/2004 12:35:38 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
No, not at face value. We have had long talks and I've asked him very serious questions. I know him well enough to know when he is lying. He isn't lying.

I will leave it to scientists to figure out the root cause of any of our emotional responses. It's far beyond me.
115 posted on 12/13/2004 12:37:31 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: MAWG

What behavior did you observe a 6-year old kid do that convinced you he was gay? Did he install track lighting in Star Wars Death Star action set? I can't help thing of the Saturday Night Live ads for "Homocil."

There is a birth defect in some Spanish peoples where a male's genitalia do not descend until the child is several years old. As a result, little boys are mistaken for being little girls, and are often raised as girls for several years. Homosexuality is fairly prevalent among children with disorder, even though there is no apparent linkage to hormonal levels. When I had most recently read about it, it was thought that the homosexuality was a result of literal gender confusion.

I have been concerned that the homosexual fixation Western society now has results in sexually ambigous, effeminate children assuming homosexual identities. I would, however, presume that most such children would tend towards bisexuality, not strict homosexuality. So I ask this to be informed, and not to make a rhetorical point: Is he bisexual, or strictly homosexual?


116 posted on 12/13/2004 12:37:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: Clint N. Suhks

"Caged, Lesbian Bunnies In Heat."


117 posted on 12/13/2004 12:38:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: EdReform

Hate to rain on anyone's parade, but studies indicate there are both genetic and environmental factors involved in sexual orientation. This would mean that for some inividuals, genetic factors might be predominant. Why does it matter?


118 posted on 12/13/2004 12:40:17 PM PST by liberlog
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To: EdReform

Hate to rain on anyone's parade, but studies indicate there are both genetic and environmental factors involved in sexual orientation. This would mean that for some inividuals, genetic factors might be predominant. Why does it matter?


119 posted on 12/13/2004 12:42:43 PM PST by liberlog
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don't know, there was this kid I went to grade school with who is gay. It was pretty obvious from day 1. the same can be said for my wife's 8 year old cousin - That kid is GAY!


120 posted on 12/13/2004 12:43:01 PM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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