Posted on 12/14/2004 6:02:37 AM PST by OESY
"Conyo, spelled on my machine 'cono' minus the 'ene' symbol above the n. Try again.
"
Sorry, but "cono" means cone in Spanish. Without the tilde over the n, your word was misspelled. They are two different words. At least the earlier poster included the correct accents. If you're going to criticize his Spanish, at least do it in correct Spanish.
I know what you meant. But you misspelled it.
Yes, Mr. Clinton amply demonstrated your point, and on this much I had to agree with Mr. Perot. If a man's wife can't trust him...
I didn't mispell it, I didn't bother with the "enye."
For you: vaya al carrajo, conyo.
Who's impressed with you cowboy? There one ad hominem attack for another.
I do not have illegal alien help. She is legal and pays her taxes. But even if I did, it would not be important. It's a useless law and that is why the government does not enforce it. Those illegal nannies provide an invaluable service which contributes to continued economic growth and prosperity of this country. If not for those nannies, the wealthy would not be out there with their innovative ideas and strong work ethic which create the jobs for the majority.
"I didn't mispell it, I didn't bother with the "enye." "
Horse hockey. Cono is a valid word in Spanish. It means "cone." N with a tilde is a different letter of the alphabet. I won't tell you how to insert one in your post, since you don't seem to care. But no matter how you look at it, "Cono" does not mean what you intended to say. If you're going to write in Spanish, write in Spanish. If you want to call someone a name, then call him that name, whatever language you use.
Calling someone a "cone" just doesn't quite have the impact of the other word, does it, now?
"The net effect to them will be about the same, but at least this way they will begin paying for all the free health care and school services currently provided by taxpayers."
The catch to that idea is that most of these illegals have large families, making them eligible for Earned Income Credit on their Federal income taxes. If they're legalized they will end up getting even MORE freebies from the taxpayers because they will get back every penny they pay into the IRS, plus more.
From my understanding of the laws (I've transcribed a lot of social services consults on illegals here in America who have "anchor babies"), the way the law is written right now, an illegal family can only receive things like AFDC, Food Stamps, and housing allowances for their American-born children - not the whole family. Once the whole family is legalized, the whole family will be eligible for aid - i.e., a larger allowance of Food Stamps, a bigger housing allowance and they will be able to get back every penny they pay into the IRS as well - just like low-income American citizens do now. Bottom line: In my opinion, illegals will end up costing taxpayers more than they do right now if they're legalized.
"conyo"
Still misspelled. That word does not mean anything in Spanish. If you're going to write in Spanish, write in Spanish. If you're going to call me nasty names, at least spell them correctly.
Are you impressed with yourself, explaining the difference between "n" and "enye" to us? As if this is some advanced concept?
Vaya al carrajo, conyo.
Dripping with elitism today, doc. Said like a true grandee.
"Why, we brainiacs need a little extra-legal nanny help, so that we can better the world for the peons."
Disgusting. Simply, disgusting.
"Are you impressed with yourself, explaining the difference between "n" and "enye" to us? As if this is some advanced concept?
Vaya al carrajo, conyo."
No thanks. It's still coño. Have a nice day.
Nope - the two biggest tax items are social security (+plus DI in Calif) and sales taxes. S/S is the biggie ... and the one no one avoids paying. Income taxes (both state and Fed) are chump change for low and middle-class wage earners.
Once Manuel Labour begins paying S/S, ay carumba!
All the plan does is screw up the burocracy even more and make it imposssible to regulate. The same thing that happened in previous attempts to "beautify" the ugly situation, as in the Reagan attempt, but it will happen again, only much worse. There is only one good answer: fence the borders and deport the illegals now here. They can return here legally any time they wish to invest patience, clean papers and modest money.
I still think the increased amount of social programs the whole family will be eligible for will more than offset any Social Security taxes they may be paying.
Let me give you an example: I know a woman who is a single mother and makes about $8.00 per hour. Her income tax rebate is always larger than the amount she paid in in taxes. Plus, because she has a couple of kids and is low income, she is eligible for Food Stamps, Medicaid and housing assistance, and before her kids were old enough for school the state paid for her daycare as well. Bottom line: The social services she is able to access more than make up for what she pays in Social Security taxes each year.
That's my point about legalizing illegals: The WHOLE FAMILY will be eligible for increased social services programs once their legalized - not just the "anchor babies" as the law is currently written. This will definitely be a win-win for the illegals but not such good news for Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer.
"once their legalized"
Duuh! Should be "once they're legalized"! Asleep at the keyboard today! :)
It's combination of several things, employers are just one of them. Not subsidizing illegal immigrants with welfare is another.
But a wall (or fence) is of value to keep people from just walking across the border.
Do any of your neighbors have a dog? ;^D
"Fences make good neighbors"
Welcome to California (Mexifornia).
"Even if I was breaking that law, it wouldn't be important."
Some officer of the court you are.
It's a useless law and that is why the government does not enforce it. Those illegal nannies provide an invaluable service which contributes to continued economic growth and prosperity of this country. If not for those nannies, the wealthy would not be out there with their innovative ideas and strong work ethic which create the jobs for the majority.
LOLOL! Yassah massah!
Thank the Lord our betters shoulder the burden of job creation and nannies, legal and otherwise, to make life more prosperous for us peasants. When folks like Kerik break the law, it's only for our own good.
Your comments sound like those of refugees from an Oprah audience, trying to salve their consciences for having shunted off half their child rearing responsiblities to a nanny. You're a real self-sacrificer, you betcha.
Dear Innisfree,
I didn't say it is either right or fair, only that $10 per hour to the employee, with no payroll or income taxes taken out, doesn't sound like slave labor to me.
"What happens if this 'employee' falls seriously ill?"
The same thing that happens to anyone else in the United States who doesn't have health insurance. Are folks who work legally for $10 per hour and have no health insurance "slave labor"?
"Shifting the burden to other taxpayers in that fashion is dishonest and a form of thievery."
I don't disagree.
But the wages paid don't constitute slave labor.
That's all.
sitetest
That's true for most employers. But the union jerks and hard core unemployables who can't keep any job will always believe that employers hire illegals simply because they can pay them less.
It's part of the same mentality of a person who can't keep a job because he doesn't have a clue as to how a good employee should act, that he can't imagine any reason for an employer hiring an illegal than lower pay.
Good comebacks! You effectively ridiculed my comments without personally bashing me.
Obviously, there was some inflammatory hyperbole in my last post. But, it elicited some funny comments that brightened my day.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.