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Putin's Push for a Strategic Triangle
The Asia Times Online ^ | December 8, 2004 | Sergei Blagov

Posted on 12/15/2004 7:38:20 AM PST by LibertyRocks

MOSCOW - Russia is again calling for a Moscow-New Delhi-Beijing axis, an alliance of three nuclear-armed countries of some 2.5 billion people that theoretically would be able to balance US power in coming years.

Cooperation among Russia, India and China "would make a great contribution to global security", Russian President Vladimir Putin announced in New Delhi. The Kremlin leader, on a visit to India over the weekend, accused the West of pursuing a dictatorial foreign policy and setting double standards on terrorism. A unipolar world could entail dangerous trends globally, Putin said, adding that unilateralism increased risks that weapons of mass destruction might fall into the hands of terrorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alliance; beijing; china; coldwar2; india; multipolar; newdelhi; nucleararms; putin; us
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Things that make you go hmmm.... Thoughts on this report coming out of Moscow?
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(I know it's a few days past printing, but I did a search and didn't find it. My apologies if this has been posted already.)
1 posted on 12/15/2004 7:38:20 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: MeekOneGOP; texasflower
Thought you two might be interested in reading this... I seem to remember some of the pro-Russia posters on the Yuschenko threads very forcefully denying that Putin wants an alliance with China. It seems that this article points to the opposite!

I really don't like how this is looking...
2 posted on 12/15/2004 7:40:36 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

India's part in this makes me take notice. For years the U.S. and India have been working to strengthen their relationship, and over the past couple of years India has been emerging as a world power due in no small part to millions of outsourced jobs flowing from the U.S. into that country. Will India jeopardize it's future by positioning itself as a direct competitor instead of partner to the U.S. ? I don't think so. My guess is that Putin will have to re-think his strategy.


3 posted on 12/15/2004 7:44:33 AM PST by contemplator
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To: LibertyRocks; meadsjn; Doomonyou; Travis McGee; Squantos; joanie-f; Dukie; RobFromGa; JohnHuang2; ..
Russia is again calling for a Moscow-New Delhi-Beijing axis

So it begins. Way too much like the DFS for my tatses.

4 posted on 12/15/2004 7:44:38 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: LibertyRocks

A superpower without counterpoise looks like a bully, this will work to balance the world's angst and calm the hysterics of a tyrannical US foreign policy.

RW


5 posted on 12/15/2004 7:44:47 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: contemplator
Of course you are assumming how visible any agreement with India would be. There are probably many hidden accords and treaties that have been signed and will be signed with China.

Russian better wake up or the Bear will be swallowed up by the Dragon.
6 posted on 12/15/2004 7:48:14 AM PST by BobCNY
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To: Jeff Head
Russia is again calling for a Moscow-New Delhi-Beijing axis...

That seems to ring a bell....where have I heard that before?

7 posted on 12/15/2004 7:50:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BobCNY

Russia's birth rate is so low that 500,00 chinese already live in Siberia illegally and the russians can't or won't do a thing about it. Replacement is 1.77 and there rat e is 1.14 so by 2040 they will have gone from 160 million to around 110 million, so they are already half way down the lizards throat.

This is much ado about nothing a former power thrashing about to find relevance and a corrupt dictaor ship loking for a veneer of respectability in the IC.

RW


8 posted on 12/15/2004 7:52:27 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: LibertyRocks

China and India won't want to ally with a disintergrating Russia.


9 posted on 12/15/2004 7:53:55 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: Travis McGee

Jeff Head, not just an author, but a bit of a prophet.


10 posted on 12/15/2004 7:54:09 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: BobCNY; contemplator

Umm,the biggest roadblock to Putin's ambition is the India-China relationship.Both nations pretty much hate each other,though they don't go shouting about it,given their growing economic clout.China defeated India in a border war in 1962 & took a bout 40,000sq kms of Indian territory & this still rankles in the Indian psyche.Moreover,China has been Pakistan's biggest backer since the 50s.Most of it's military systems,including it's nukes are of Chinese origins.Pakistan is to India what North Korea is to Japan-proxies that keep these nations tied down so that the PRC can go around claiming it is the pre-eminent power in Asia.

The only way that this tripartite alliance is going to be realistic is if the US actively supports Pakistan AGAINST India,while China drops it's support with Pakistan-which IS NEVER going to happen.Chinese engineers are building a new port on Pakistan's Makran coast & the PRC is building a new fighter & 4 frigates for the Pakistani navy.


11 posted on 12/15/2004 7:57:47 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: LibertyRocks

A China, Russia, India alliance?? This won't work. China is a natural rival of both of the other countries. China has fought wars or at least skirmished with both of these countries in recent memory. Good luck, Vlad.


12 posted on 12/15/2004 8:04:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: LibertyRocks

Eurasia
Eastasia
Oceania

War is Peace;Freedom is Slavery;Ignorance is Strength

20 years too late


13 posted on 12/15/2004 8:04:39 AM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: contemplator

India held the Rooskies' coat for 50 years and watched the rest of the world advance while it remained stilted in Socialism. Maybe they've learned something.


14 posted on 12/15/2004 8:07:44 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: contemplator

I was talking to a lot of indians living in Great Britain, and they said that doing the "cheap" jobs for the US will always makes them feeling a servant, but joining the Russians and Chineese would make them feel to move from the third world counrty level to the "superpower" legaue...

What is the better politically, is debatable.... but this a valid point...

Pride and sentiments just too often interfered with logic in the history...


15 posted on 12/15/2004 8:21:19 AM PST by bozot
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To: LibertyRocks; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; devolve
Thanks.

bump! bump! bump!


16 posted on 12/15/2004 8:22:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: bozot

Firstly,A good chunk of the Indians you talked to will probably never return back to India & will live the good life as Her Majesty's subjects-so you cannot say that they represent or even know how the IT personnel in India feel.As far as I can gather,most Indians who have gained employment as a result of outsourcing have had no qualms about pride or lack of it.As long as they get paid & they do get paid pretty well by Indian standards ,they have no problems.Most importantly,this drives the Indian economy forward & gives it the regional or world power status it wants.Most Indians living back home are pragmatic about the advantages of outsourcing-no use yearning for long lost national pride.Afterall,the US of A didn't become the world's most powerful nation because it's people decided not to do blue collar jobs.


17 posted on 12/15/2004 8:31:46 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: LibertyRocks

bttt for later read.


18 posted on 12/15/2004 8:32:53 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: MeekOneGOP

No Problem! (o:


19 posted on 12/15/2004 8:33:14 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Sawdring

It's baaaaack ... =)

Trust all is well, guy.


20 posted on 12/15/2004 8:40:59 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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