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To: oso blanco
Get another Clinton in office with a democrat congress and you can kiss property rights goodbye.

Expect armed revolt.

http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/arcsupply/3ranfeu9.html

Rancher feuds with feds over water, shoots at helicopter

September 2003

U.S. Water News Online

PHOENIX -- Rancher Fred Conway had been feuding with the U.S. Forest Service over water it had taken from his property to fight wildfires last year when he heard a helicopter near his stock pond again.

So he grabbed his shotgun, drove an all-terrain vehicle across his pasture near Punkin Center and tried to wave the pilot away. But the pilot dropped the 240-gallon rubber bucket anyway and Conway fired at it.

He now faces up to a year in jail and $7,000 in restitution if convicted of one count of interfering with the performance of a federal contractor.

``It has a lot to do with water rights,'' Conway said.

The Forest Service and the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to comment on the case, but Don Van Driel, group leader for fire and engineering for Tonto National Forest, said the dispute is unusual.

Forest Service district rangers usually try to assess availability of private water before the fire season begins.

``We try really hard not to use somebody's water without their approval,'' Van Driel said.

Especially in drought years, water is a precious commodity, but it's unclear whether Conway has an inviolable right to the water in his stock pond.

There aren't any black-and-white answers because questions regarding water rights and the value of water are particular to the facts surrounding a case, said Pat Schiffer, chief legal counsel to the Arizona Department of Water Resources.

But other attorneys are more certain.

``It's his water,'' says Michael McNulty, a water attorney in Tucson. ``The government has no more right to take it than to take his dining room furniture.''

Conway says that is why he wants to be compensated.

The Forest Service didn't pay for water used last year, and Conway said he told officials not to come back until he was paid.

He said he tried for months to get the Forest Service to compensate him for the water it drew from his spring-fed pond in 2002, but in frustration he finally called the Tonto National Forest headquarters and told a clerk the agency wasn't allowed to take any more water.

But during the mop-up operations on the Picture fire, which started June 17 and burned 12,500 acres northeast of Conway's ranch, a helicopter pilot saw a flare-up and headed toward Conway's pond.

The pilot, Matt Conant, said he didn't notice Conway on the ground until the second volley of shotgun fire.

``Personally, I kind of feel for the old guy,'' Conant said. ``I'm not the guy trying to throw him in jail. But he still shouldn't be shooting at aircraft.''

8 posted on 12/16/2004 8:31:56 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

WATER-WARS ...BUMP!


25 posted on 12/16/2004 8:33:51 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM: The Liberal Solution to ALL of Society's Problems!!! (...Other People's Money))
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