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Christians Face 47 Years in Prison Because Philly Judge Calls Bible Verses
Raiders News Update ^ | 12/16/04 | Kathryn Hooks

Posted on 12/16/2004 8:15:22 AM PST by OB1kNOb

Appeal to the Supreme Court last hope for Christians

“First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square; now, Christians are facing 47 years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud,” – Brian Fahling, AFA Center for Law and Policy Senior Trial Attorney.

Tupelo, MS - After a federal appeals court denied an emergency appeal to stop prosecution of 11 Christians on Tuesday, Philadelphia Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan ordered four of the Christians to stand trial on three felony (criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation, and riot) and five misdemeanor charges. If convicted, they could face up to 47 years in prison.

The Christians were arrested on October 10 for praying, singing, and reading scripture during an annual “gay pride” event known as “Outfest” in Philadelphia.

Since the federal courts did not intervene to halt the state prosecution, the last route for the Christians would be an appeal to the Supreme Court says the Christians’ attorney Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy.

“First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square, now, Christians are facing years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud,” Fahling said.

The federal appeals court in Philadelphia denied emergency relief despite video footage Fahling calls “undisputed evidence” that shows the Christians cooperating with police and continually being harassed by the Pink Angels, a group of homosexuals organized to impede the gospel message. Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, attacked the Christians as “hateful” and referred to preaching the Bible as “fighting words,” the judge agreed.

Charges were dropped against the remaining seven apparently because they were not seen quoting scripture on the videotape.

The Philadelphia case represents another example of discrimination toward Christians,” said Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association national headquarters. “The past month has poured forth cases of Christian persecution seen in the higher education institution, public school systems, and the judicial court system.”

Center for Law and Policy

Contact: Kathryn Hooks 662-844-5036 American Family Association P.O. Drawer 2440 Tupelo, MS 38803 1-662-680-3886


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: afa; bible; christianpersecution; christians; court; donutwatch; hatecrime; homosexualagenda; michaelmarcavage; outfest; persecution; philadelphia; publicsquare; religion; religiousfreedom; repentamerica; wrongforum
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To: KJacob
This is Mississippi not Pennsylvania.

Which raises even more questions- I find it hard to believe that a judge in Mississippi would allow charges like this to stand unless there was some real substance to them.

41 posted on 12/16/2004 8:32:20 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Rockitz

ping


42 posted on 12/16/2004 8:32:29 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Electrowoman

The "instruments of crime" were Bible verses and Bibles.


44 posted on 12/16/2004 8:32:50 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: massgopguy
Put it on the Census. Then we will find out how few there actually are. Their political clout is based on imaginary numbers.

I've heard the claim of 10% of Americans. I don't believe that number one bit. I would hazard to guess that 5% of Americans have engaged in homosexual activity, and that possibly 2% are homosexual.

45 posted on 12/16/2004 8:33:04 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: 2banana

Such a law is unconstitutional, and will be struck down...Seems the people of Philadelphia have fallen all the way to the bottom of the pit. Sad this would happen in the town that started it all...Time to awaken them!


46 posted on 12/16/2004 8:33:09 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: wideawake
You were the guy who thought it was wrong for police to arrest trespassers on private property.

Source, please.

47 posted on 12/16/2004 8:33:31 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Modernman
I'm an attorney in AZ. I have represented 16 "street preachers" in different towns around Phoenix. All were arrested for "disorderly conduct," "trespassing" and other misdemeanors. All were on public streets; none used amplification or otherwise interfered with other's use of the streets. In many cases, the police said they were making "unreasonable noise," even though louder noises were present. Sometimes, hostile, angry protesters were present, none were arrested. In one case, the police said they had to arrest the preachers because the situation was a "near riot." We showed a video that proved it wasn't so.
All that is to show that (although none were convicted), the police are already emboldened to shut down Christian speech.
48 posted on 12/16/2004 8:34:13 AM PST by lawdvd
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To: Steve_Seattle

Also, this happened in Mississippi. How many MS judges would let charges like this stand against a group of Christians unless there was some real substance to them?


49 posted on 12/16/2004 8:34:19 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Syco

Its not all the judges fault. They were arrested by the police, and somebody is prosecuting the case.


50 posted on 12/16/2004 8:34:22 AM PST by conserv13
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To: Steve_Seattle

Why do you think that homosexuals have a right to a festival on the public streets and those who want to protest it don't a right to do so?

WTF? It wasn't in a private building, or grounds. There were no barriers, no admission fees. It was just in the regular, public, open streets.


51 posted on 12/16/2004 8:34:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: Modernman

"This is Mississippi not Pennsylvania.
Which raises even more questions- I find it hard to believe that a judge in Mississippi would allow charges like this to stand unless there was some real substance to them."

What about a Clinton appointed Federal Judge?


52 posted on 12/16/2004 8:35:03 AM PST by DJ Taylor
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To: Steve_Seattle

To finish my thought: people have a right to criticize religion, but they don't have a right to disrupt church services; this would be criminal trespass. So I'm guessing the Christian protestors were in some sense trying to disrupt or impede the parade, a parade which probably had a legal permit and which therefore enjoyed a right to use of the public street without interruption. But I could be wrong, and maybe it was just as it was presented in the story - people being arrested merely for criticizing homosexuality.


53 posted on 12/16/2004 8:35:49 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Modernman

I suspected as much, but we will need more legal advise like this. We are just beginning to gather our forces and will make this a legal fight. In fact, other groups do meet at the same facility. We are being excluded strictly on religious grounds. The director of the historical society indicated so over the telephone. We have asked for an explanation in writing so we can create a paper trail. Then we go to work. I'll keep y'all posted.


54 posted on 12/16/2004 8:35:52 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: freeeee
I'll find it as I search through the archives, but you may remember the context.

A NYC police officer was fired because he refused a direct order from his supervisor to take a homeless guy trespassing in a private parking garage into custody. He said it was a matter of conscience and you backed him up on it.

55 posted on 12/16/2004 8:36:07 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: OB1kNOb
The attorney says the charges were dropped against the remaining seven because they were not seen quoting scripture on the videotape. Fahling says in Philadelphia, it appears the public reading of scripture will land a person in jail.
56 posted on 12/16/2004 8:36:21 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: valuesvaluesvalues

If anyone doubts there are this kind of people in the legal system, all they have to do is read FR and they will find plenty of people who would be quite willing to jail Christians for praying in front of homosexuals, or abortionists or whatever is the cause of the day for the radicals.


57 posted on 12/16/2004 8:36:29 AM PST by yarddog
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To: OB1kNOb
I'll have to do more research on this. It calls for something more than just a post or an email. Christians should be out in force contacting their governing representatives for protection on this issue or becomming rich from lawsuits.
58 posted on 12/16/2004 8:36:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Steve_Seattle

The Gays disrupt the St. Patrick's Day parade in South Boston every year. They don't get prosecuted. Gays threw condoms at newly ordained priest at Holy Cross Cathedral, they did not get prosecuted.


59 posted on 12/16/2004 8:37:09 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Syco

Impeachment


60 posted on 12/16/2004 8:37:27 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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