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To: Diddle E. Squat; Admin Moderator
Goodness gracious, give it a rest. You've made your point.

I get pissed off when someone who signed up yesterday comes in here and pisses all over Americans while all the time claiming their country is the best bastion of all that is right in the world without any drawbacks whatsoever. To remind you:

It reminds me of the old Yakov Smirnov joke about the Soviet Union:
When I came to America, I was amazed at the freedom of speech comedians had. I couldn't believe they could criticize their country's leaders out in the open. Here in America you could say, "I don't like Reagan". Of course, in Russia, we were allowed to do that too. We could say, "I don't like Reagan!"
It seems foreigners want to come here and criticize America, denigrate our institutions, and slur Americans. But they can never accept criticism of their own country. Christ said "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone." Where's the UK's version of Free Republic?

It's first degree trolling.

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136 posted on 12/16/2004 3:36:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
I get pissed off when someone who signed up yesterday comes in here and pisses all over Americans while all the time claiming their country is the best bastion of all that is right in the world without any drawbacks whatsoever

I think that this refers to me, so may I may a couple of points and corrections.

He first denigrates the the Constitution calling it "silly pieces of paper to wave around".
That was not to attack the constitution per se but rather to illustrate the thin basis for your freedoms. The U.S. Constitution is a masterpiece of its form - but I personally prefer our unwritten constitution.

Calls us "adolescent".
The United States are barely more than 200 years old, the country is adolscent, not the individuals therein.

Tells us to "watch out" for our liberty as we have no Monarchy (!) to make us safe.
True.

Criticizes America for being "obsessed" with Diana, whereas in Britain they are so past all that.
I never quite understood why we went mad after her death, but whatever happened back there, we are passed it - apart from a few loons and one gets those everywhere.

Claims the English never so much as mussed an Irishman's hair a little.
Not quite, we ruled the place for a long while, a couple of our leaders did some disgraceful things there, namely Oliver Cromwell (who was a military dictator) and William Prince of Orange (who usurped the Crown) - neither of whom I support. The claim that we caused the potato(e) famine is nonsense spread by anti-British revolutionaries, and is as mythical as that we had extortionate taxation on the north American colonies before 1776.

Wouldn't dare feign to listen to criticism that his own country may have problems with politically correct bureaucrats.
Oh we do have problems, I acknowledge those problems, it's just that they are far less than a constitutional ban on religion.

Smears all Republicans with the old Dan Quayle incident.
Sorry I've just done it again.

Finds Tony Martin to be less than honorable.
Assuming that honorable means something similar to honourable, yes I do. As did a jury of 12 of his peers.

Pretends not to have heard of private schools in America.
No I did not, but I thought that discussion of them was not terribly relevant when we were talking about state schools (which I believe you call public schools) and the constitutional ban on religion.

Calls us barbarians.
If you think that that was aimed at you then fine by me; but it was actually part of a larger phrase 'pagan barbarity'.

Tosses another slur on Americans.
My we are thin-skinned today, if you think that 'ketchup-eaters south of the 49th' is such a terribly slur perhaps you should lock yourself in a cold-dark room to avoid being insulted.

Denigrates the Supreme Court Justices.
No I denegrated their tasteless outfits. Scarlet robes and wigs are so much more wonderful.

When finally confronted with evidence of PC crazies in Britain he claims that British city councils have less power than an American school district administrator.
I drew no specific comparison between council powers and those of a school district administrator. I said that they had little power, and could merely change a few words. This does not change the fact that our children can wear red clothes to a Christmas party.

Claims the heroic veterans of WWII hampered Britain's fight against the Nazis in spite of the 3,812 airmen buried in the U.K.
Now that is a serious claim, and is the exact opposite of what I said, therefore I request that you withdraw it. I fully acknowledge the sacrifice made by all allied countries in the Second World War. What I said was that had America arrived in said war earlier we would have been able to kick Nazi arses out of Auschwitz earlier; in other words America aided the war effort, pity it began so late.
149 posted on 12/17/2004 2:40:32 AM PST by PiersGaveston (Poker anyone?)
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