The Facts on the Ukraine Melodrama

inerbriantia ^ | November 29, 2004 | Srdja Trifkovic

[risk]

Agitprop.

[Monterrosa-24]

The pertinent facts about Yanukovich are...

1. He is a criminal who has been in prison twice.

2. He is still a representative of the Mob.

[jb6]

First, a man served prison time as a teenager, so he's damned for life? Very Christian.

Second, the Mob? How about Yulia Tomoshenko, Yushchenko's VP, she's only wanted by Interpol (of course while she's in parliment she immune). She's only one of the biggest oligarchs of Ukraine, wanted for theft of millions in natural gas heading to Europe and in bribery of government officials in Russia. Nothing to bad.

[Monterrosa-24]

The pertinent facts about Yushchenko are...

1. He is an honest patriotic man and the devoted father of five children.

2. He was poisoned by the Mob or by the secret police (there is a good connection between the two).

[Monterrosa-24]

All the EASTERN Ukrainians I know are for Yushchenko and they are all good Russian speaking people.

[jb6]

Funny, all the ones I know are not and are ready for civil war. Go figure.

[pierrem15]

The myth is virulently Russophobic.

After all, the Russians only murdered about 30 million Ukrainians.

Or did they starve themselves to win Western sympathy?

And if you think that was only a Soviet phenomenon, you should read about the persecution of the Uniate Christians in the 19th Century by the Tsars.

The Russians fear their neighbors in the "near abroad" because they know full well what they did to them.

[GarySpFc]

All the EASTERN Ukrainians I know are for Yushchenko and they are all good Russian speaking people.

I agree with JB6. All the Russian speaking Ukranians I know in and from the East are for Yanukovich.

[jb6]

Yup After all, the Russians only murdered about 30 million Ukrainians. There are only 50 million people in Ukraine now but 30 million were murdered by Russians. Hmmm, funny, first, most of the communist party at that time was run by Georgians and Ukrainians, but we'll ignore that. Stalin murdered somewhere between 30-36 million people and the majority were from Russia proper, but we'll ingore that too. All eastern Ukrainian cities were built by Russians, but we'll ignore that also. Kiev was rebuilt by Russians after reuinification, from the dump it was after the Mongols arrived, but again, we'll ignore that. My,my, well, since we're on a roll, might as well ignore all of history and just go with your "facts".

[Monterrosa-24]

In Alchevsk, there are lots of Yushchenko supporters but...there is no shortage of thugs trying to intimidate them and in some cases send them to the hospital.
Remember Alchevsk is home to one of the world's largest steel mills.

One who works for the coal mines as an accountant was told by his boss who to vote for in no uncertain terms. It is indeed Teamster tactics.

[jb6]

Oh, by the way, bright guy, here's another bit of history: in WW2, in eastern Ukraine (that's Yushchenko's center of support and an economic dead zone) Hitler raised up an SS Division and got half his concentration camp guards. But again, we'll ignore that.

[jb6]

Because Yushchenko uses no thugs, nope none, just ignore the nazi UNSO parading at all his marches. Yup, no thugs here.

[Monterrosa-24]

Buzz off Troll. Next time post one article at a time especially when you use Stinking Commie sources. All your "facts" are fake.

[jb6]

My sources are communist? Oh God are you a hypocrit. Take a closer look at the CBS and CNNs and BBCs your type posts. Trolling for Clinton and company and the Eurofacists must make you warm and fuzzy or dull and dumb.

[jb6]

All your "facts" are fake.

Yeah, you're ready to worship the Hildabeast and her MSM, hell you're already on her side.

[Monterrosa-24]

"...Take a closer look at the CBS and CNNs and BBCs your type posts..."


I've never used those sources.

[pierrem15]

No, I'm not ignoring that. The Ukrainians wanted the Germans' help in getting rid of their Slavic Brothers, the Russians (and eliminate the possibility of a Polish return as well), and since I haven't seen Yushchenko parading around in a brown shirt recently, I don't know what bearing it has. It's sort of like noting that Schroeder's father was in the Wehrmacht.

But to comment about the current population of the Ukraine as though it disproved the forced starvation of the Ukraine in the 20's is like the gulag commandant who stated that his prison population was 250,000 in the early 40's and still 250,000 in 1945. He just forgot to mention that several hundred thousand additional prisoners arrived in the interim.

[Spirited]

All that your candidate has made certain is that he will have all the "cults" outlawed.
Like the largest Church in Europe under Christ Jesus believing Pastor Sunday and everything else except for Orthodox that Moscow controlled all those USSR days by making them KGB. Remove all Baptists, Mennonites, etc. and take them back to no freedom of religion.
If they do the region will fall to Islam and Russia will fall to them long term, too because she is corrupt.

[jb6]

You'll really love this one. Remember UNO-UNSO is Our Ukraine's allies and this is what they think of us in America, but what to expect from the grandkids of nazis?:

UNA-UNSO appeal to Ukrainian troops in Iraq Basing upon 400-years experience of national liberation movement of Ukrainian people we appeal to Ukrainian military contingent in Iraq to turn your bayonets against USA troops and join the rebels. Ukraine and progessive mankind will be proud of you!"