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To: Prime Choice

"He's an adulterous, pro-abortion, anti-Second Amendment RINO. That doesn't make for a "great man" in my book."

I'll ignore "adulterous" -- he has faults, like plenty of leaders. You don't believe the NYT press has their long knives out for him on this? Should Jack Ryan have gotten killed this last political cycle as well?

You can not get elected in that part of the country without being pro-abortion to some degree. The debate on this is clearly shifting in the country but that doesn't determine a candidate for an executive office.

You do know Cheney has pretty much admitted to not supporting a gay marriage ammendment, right? But he's been clear in his support for the president.

I would expect that if Rudy would want to get ellected or fill a leadership role there would be certain expectations for him as well.

But views which are different from mine do not bar an individual from helping lead. If you had been in NYC at the time of 9/11 (I was, with family), you would have seen a great man who lead people well. Instead, many sit here reading this with a cynic's eye and applying a litmus test preemptively to quash an individual who has much potential to expand the influence of this party beyond 150k votes in Ohio.


45 posted on 12/17/2004 12:40:35 AM PST by gungatendo
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To: gungatendo
You can not get elected in that part of the country without being pro-abortion to some degree.

Doesn't make selling out any more right. What's next? Selling out the Second Amendment as well?

Sorry...there are just some issues that are non-negotiable.

46 posted on 12/17/2004 12:45:39 AM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And if you can't be good, be careful.)
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To: gungatendo
"You do know Cheney has pretty much admitted to not supporting a gay marriage ammendment, right? But he's been clear in his support for the president."

Since when does supporting abuse of the Constitution make one a conservative. Misusing the Constitution to enforce your beliefs is no better than when the liberals do it.

In case you didn't know, the Constitution is supposed to be a restraint on the powers of government, not on the rights of people. I oppose so called 'gay marriage', but I oppose an amendment banning it even more.

215 posted on 12/20/2004 1:51:37 AM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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