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To: David1
The military's job was set out to go out and destroy the enemy. Not start stopping people stealing lamps and tires.

That is an outright incorrect statement. When you occupy a nation it is the responsibility of the occupying power to preserve law and order. It was just what the USA did after it occupied liberated Europe and Asia after WW2.

It is what the Army and the National Guard have done inside the USA itself.

Finally, you missed my point which is that allowing an atmosphere of looting and lawlessness to fester we allowed the Iraqis to become emboldened enough to later challenge us. Lastly, allowing such a lawless atmosphere made the Iraqis consider our forces useless when it comes to their defense from men with guns and when you have men with guns you either fight them or allow yourself to be ruled by them and that is what happened.

53 posted on 12/19/2004 3:51:29 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
When you occupy a nation it is the responsibility of the occupying power to preserve law and order

You sound like the village idiot trying to use the big words and ideas he reads in a book. Before one assumes the responsibility of an occupying power, one has to have acheived the authority of an occupying power, which means having achieved the defeat and surrender of the enemy forces. Until the insurgents have been supressed we are merely a combatant in country and not an occupier.

56 posted on 12/19/2004 4:39:09 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Destro
allowing an atmosphere of looting and lawlessness to fester we allowed

Allow, allow, allow .... To allow means somehow that you had the writ and power to stop it and by official decree decided that looting and lawlessness are ok.

You really are nincompoop.

57 posted on 12/19/2004 4:41:12 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Destro
David1 said: The military's job was set out to go out and destroy the enemy. Not start stopping people stealing lamps and tires.

To which you replied That is an outright incorrect statement.

You get the prize for being the dumbest idiot on this form. Destroying the enemy is exactly what the military's job is. Until his ability and will to fight are overcome there is nothing else.

58 posted on 12/19/2004 4:47:25 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Destro

So tell us, in your own grade school words, what is your problem with how Rumsfeld is running the war. Don't stand behind some fancy book title or what someone else tells us. Come out like the whimp of a child you are, look is straight in the eye and give it your best shot, however meagre it is likely to be.


59 posted on 12/19/2004 4:49:24 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Destro

Bunk...there was looting in post WWII Germany too. You cannot also compare a riot here in the US to a real live WAR in Iraq. I want my soldiers to destroy the enemy and not be worried about the dangerous enemy lurking about. Remember, the US did not have complete control of the country yet. They just started entering Baghdad to look for and destroy the enemy!!!!! Listen...I stand by what I said. I want my soldiers to go out and destroy the freaking enemy. Not worry also about stopping people from stealing lamps. The US started restoring order after a few days after it became clear the concentrated enemy resistance in Baghdad had collapsed.


85 posted on 12/19/2004 8:38:51 PM PST by David1
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