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To: kingsurfer

Your view is very much that of an outlier. You are spouting chavista propaganda, the kind that Global Exchange/Code Pink have written up themselves.

The recall referendum was a total fraud. The poor do NOT support Chavez - Take a look at these so-called 'oligarchs' here - http://www.salonchingon.com/exhibits/caracas2004/source/opp-march-bests-14.html

Photos don't lie. The only people who support chavez are communist block committees who are stealing venezuela blind and oppressing the nonblock committee members. It's all about corruption these days. The communists intend to steal venezuela blind and spirit it all off to Miami. Venezuela's poverty rate has shot up 80% since Chavez took power. The Venezuelan middle class is no more. The poor have gotten poorer. 7000 businesses have been driven under by Chavez. People are getting their land stolen. Only the communist elite have gotten rich now. The poor do not support Hugo Chavez. Only the communist bureaucrats with their hands in the till do.


14 posted on 12/18/2004 7:39:23 AM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: Kitten Festival

The photos were interesting but do certainly not reinforce your point:

On the streets it is clear that a large portion of the public, probably 30-40%, are convinced the election was fixed. In upscale Altamira, three motorcyclists dressed in Chavista garb scuffle with these opposition protesters and fire into the crowd, killing one woman and injuring 7.

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So this means 60 - 70% do not think there was a a fraud!


15 posted on 12/18/2004 7:43:09 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Kitten Festival

More quotes from your link:

The majority of Caracas' 5 million people live in barrios resting on the hills surrounding the city center. They are diverse communities, but they share one thing in common: they have been wholly ignored by previous governments, leading to overwhelming poverty and disillusion.

Within the past year, the fruits of the process have appeared in every barrio. The referendum demonstrated to outsiders what people in the barrios have known for months: there has been a profound social awakening here, energizing a well-organized grass-roots movement that is aided by the government. Among other accomplishments, these community organizations brought out the vote like never before.

On a Saturday afternoon in La Vega, classrooms are packed with women of all ages returning to school, seeking higher degrees thanks to Mission Ribas.

In order for families to get titles to their land and homes, their barrios need to be mapped, so land committees have formed in each barrio, undertaking the massive task of mapping millions of "unregistered" homes. Instead of relying on well-paid specialists to carry out the daily work of organizing these programs, people in the barrios form committees, set their agenda, and petition the government.

Virginia del Carmen Sequera who has lived in 23 de Enero for more than 40 years, happily shows her new property title. With this document she was able to attain government micro-credits with zero interest, to build a bathroom and kitchen.


16 posted on 12/18/2004 7:48:28 AM PST by kingsurfer
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