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Koch: Kerik a 'Disgrace'
NewsMax ^ | Dec 18, 2004 | Limbacher

Posted on 12/18/2004 9:54:09 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch said Saturday that ex-police commissioner Bernard Kerik was a "disgrace" for trying to cover-up so much of his past when President Bush tapped him to head the Homeland Security Department.

"He's a disgrace," Koch told WABC Radio's Mark Simone.

Simone countered that despite the scandals that have engulfed Kerik, his job performance had been excellent. But Koch was unmoved.

"I don't care. He still should have had to go through [the city's Department of Investigations]," the ex-mayor said, citing allegations that Kerik had accepted cash from an organized crime figure in New Jersey.

Commenting Kerik's acknowledgment that he kept two mistresses while married, Koch said that was his "own business . . . except when his public life becomes a part of it."

"When he uses an apartment given to the police department for cops to rest after 9/11 duty, then it becomes a public matter," he noted.

Koch also had some sharp words for ex-mayor Rudy Giuliani, who recommended Kerik to the Bush White House.

"Rudy, I always thought was a hands-on mayor. But it appears he didn't make any inquiries of the DOI when he took him from being his driver and made him corrections commissioner without the checks that are required," he said.

"That is not only sloppy. That's crazy."


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1 posted on 12/18/2004 9:54:09 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This guy even stawked one of his ex-lovers. In phone calls he reportedly described her dates in intimate details while she was on them. He also pretented (or actually did) follow her son to school as he commuted back to college, and told her which exit he was traversing in real time.

Wow. This guy went from respect to donkey turd at warp speed.


2 posted on 12/18/2004 10:01:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

One name: Donald Manes. That ought to shut Ed's trap. V's wife.


3 posted on 12/18/2004 10:04:47 AM PST by ventana
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Did Ed Koch know about any of Kerik's pecadillos? He's a powerful NY insider; I would think he had at least a clue. Koch supported Bush in the election and was roundly criticized by his fellow Dims. He didn't support the president enough to make a warning phone call?


4 posted on 12/18/2004 10:10:55 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Koch has often aligned himself with Dinkins to attack Rudy.

All things considered, Rudy brought this on himself and if people are speaking out......so be it!

5 posted on 12/18/2004 10:14:17 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Statement: "...Kerik a 'Disgrace'"

Response: No only too typical of a politician, in America, in 2004 A.D.

6 posted on 12/18/2004 10:15:26 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
New York City is a cesspool of corruption and intrigue. To try and disentangle it all is to die trying. It's worth wondering what Hillary knew - since she was rather overtly and publicly enthusiastic when the Kerik announcement first came out.

I liked the image of Kerik as it existed at the time he was named for the DHS post. That was a bit at variance with the reality of Kerik at the time he was named for the DHS post. So, we live and learn. I am grateful that someone, somewhere (in the White House or anywhere) knew enough to submarine this selection before the nomination package was forwarded to the Senate. Otherwise we'd be hearing Barbara Boxer and Leahy and the usual suspects bitching and whining on an hourly basis.

7 posted on 12/18/2004 10:26:48 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I agree with Koch, but it makes me think back to that silly argument that a person is O.K. because you liked them when you didn't know the bad things they'd done.


8 posted on 12/18/2004 11:06:26 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ventana

you're not calling for Kerik to kill himself too are ya?


9 posted on 12/18/2004 11:08:59 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: wardaddy

At least Tom Lantos was the one Democrat who actually wanted to hold someone in the Clinton White House accountable.


10 posted on 12/18/2004 11:12:00 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Koch is right. End of discussion.


11 posted on 12/18/2004 11:15:52 AM PST by independentmind
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Hey - Anyone who criticizes someone who Bush thought is good must be an anti-American terrorist supporter. [sarcasm off if that is necessary]


12 posted on 12/18/2004 11:25:18 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: independentmind

BTTT


13 posted on 12/18/2004 11:26:51 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Does Koch want people looking in his closet?

When the shoe's on the other foot... he might just want to think about that.

Not that Kerik should have been Homeland Security director, but Koch is a huge hypocrite given his situation.


14 posted on 12/18/2004 11:27:15 AM PST by nj26
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To: ex-snook

My question is how the hell did Kerik, a candidate for homeland security, ever make it through the rigorous security clearance without this coming out. Seems like the president's intelligence agencies may not be doing a very good job when a reporter can find this stuff out in less than 2 days using public records and the internet.


15 posted on 12/18/2004 11:28:19 AM PST by Clorinox
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To: Clorinox
"Seems like the president's intelligence agencies may not be doing a very good job "

Seems Bush's intelligence agencies have a history of being easily duped. Looks like someone was trying to sneak a guy with blackmail potential into this important position. Can't blame Tenet or Clinton for this one.

16 posted on 12/18/2004 11:45:31 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: Clorinox

All Kerik was doing was trying to pull a Bill Clintoon action.


17 posted on 12/18/2004 11:46:15 AM PST by jocko12
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To: ventana

Manes! LOL! A blast from the past!


18 posted on 12/18/2004 11:48:07 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Image is everything!


19 posted on 12/18/2004 11:50:11 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Clorinox; ex-snook
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20 posted on 12/18/2004 11:53:19 AM PST by Mike Bates (If you've been very, very good, Santa may give you. . . .)
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