Posted on 12/18/2004 1:03:09 PM PST by coffee260
Kudos. They are already dead, politically. Droves of us became Sept 12th Republicans, and what remains are the pitiful remnants of the radical left. Their 60's philosophy has no place in today's terror charged world; they are through. What kind of American holds protests against the war supporting the INSURGENTS who kill our troops?
Yes, many will come across when they realize that the ideology is totally discredited, but the only way that will happen is if former liberals do it.
Consider The Emperor's New Clothes. Suppose that a bunch of people who were known to be the emperor's enemies were to try to tell people their beloved emperor was naked. Would anyone have believed them? They would have thought such rumors were merely proof that the emperor's enemies were either lying or delusional and in either case should therefore not be believed.
What was needed to shatter the mass delusion was someone the delusional people would perceive as being both rational and honest. Once such a person appeared, however, the mass delusion regarding the emperor's raiment shattered.
To be sure, the liberal delusion is harder to dispell than the emperor's fictitious raiment, but I would posit the same principle applies: it is immune to all attack from acknowledged conservatives. Only those converted liberals who can plant the proper seeds of doubt without raising suspicion will be able to crack it.
I think liberalism is a genetic defect and there are very few who can be helped no matter how much evidence you present to them.
"We need to save ourselves from them"
With the frenetic pace of the liberals in Plano, Texas, with forbidding the color green and red at school, I think we have a long way to go to break the door down. The assault on Christianity has reached fever pitch. We have 50 years of institutionalization of leftist dogma to unwind before we can turn our attention to saving extant leftist. We may only have 4 years in which to do it. They are so hate filled I do not know how to reach them. You can't reason with them. You can't force them to move the the correct ideology of conservatism. Therefore they have to be erradicated or marginalized so thoroughly that they no longer pose a threat to posterity. Our time is short and there is much to accomplish.
Because that is the extent of MY "outreach" to LIEberals.
Any further out calls for the Weatherby...< G >
Absolutely.
No, they need to work it out themselves.
I agree. Heard Fred Barnes say this week that liberals could help their cause by simply taking up the cause of maintaining the historical holiday of Christmas. Simply say they think it is wrong to assault Christmas the way liberal media, liberal educrats, liberal ACLU, and others are doing. What do you hear. Silence from the left. They can't even allow for the celebration by the majority of Americans of the Christmas season. Think of it. CHRISTMAS offends them. When was the last time you heard of Christians trying to force anyone to "celebrate" Christs birth. Singing Christmas carols offends. Christmas trees offend. If this offends so thoroughly, resulting in an all out offensive agains a nativity scene, what on earth will they do when Scalia is Chief Justice and Roe is overturned. Apoplexy. Some ideologies such as communism, nazism, and liberalism have taken themselves so far over the edge that they are undone and irredeemable.
This may be part of it, but there's a lot more to it. They believe that morality and wealth are both zero-sum games and that destroying those who are the most wealthy or the most moral will thus make everyone else a little bit more wealthy or more moral. Perhaps the source of the pathology is a parent who chose to leave them, either physically or psychologically. Maybe it was their own decision to separate from their parents, and their unrealized regret unwittingly actuates their behavior. Perhaps it was abuse of some sort. The psycholgical trauma seems to always involve rejection by a parent, usually a father.
More generally, as I've suggested in another post, I think it comes from a belief that if other people make the same mistake you did, that somehow makes your mistake less bad. Parental influences may play a role in initiating the downward cycle, but beyond that it can be somewhat self-perpetuating.
The common thread for this type of liberal seems to be that the fear of being abandoned is transferred to governmental policy preferences which promote social welfare. The government becomes the all caring parent that will never leave and will behave serviently to satisfy the needs of everyone. It is almost impossible to reason with this type of unrealized fear.
This probably does play a significant factor. Many liberals believe that government is omnipotent, and that if it doesn't make everyone wealthy it's because some mean nasty people don't want everyone to be wealthy. If government can't eliminate shooting deaths, it's because mean nasty gun owners want innocent people to get shot.
I don't know how best to get past this belief in government, except perhaps to ask liberals to explain how it all works. Ask the right questions and they might realize there are no real answers.
Please. I am from here. I moved south to Tennessee, and returned to New England so my wife could be closer to her family. After dealing with six months of oppressive property taxes, outrageous heating bills, back-breaking car registration fees, BAD roads, and the sheer arrogance of self-absorbed blue-blood northeast liberals; SHE can't wait to get out of here. Enjoy Chelsea...we'll be happy to make room for you.
One more thing. The CONGRESS needs to begin to IMPEACH those judges who are flagrantly activist. If we start purging some of the tenured and secured seats of liberal judicial activism, the rest of the vermin may come in line with simply interpreting the Constitution. But for some inexpicable reason the CONGRESS will not broach this subject. This is the real place to begin to purge their purulence.
I don't see the necessary changes here as being gradual. I believe that what needs to happen, and it looks as though it might with the proper encouragement, is for liberalism to implode on itself. One key to making this happen will be to reach enough liberals that doubts about where things are going will start to resonate.
The Christmas thing may be a good place for that. Remind people that acknowledging someone else's holiday does not imply endorsement thereof. If someone says "Happy Hanukah", one can reply "Happy Hanukah to you too" whether or not one is Jewish. If someone says "Happy Googenflotzday", one can replay "And the same to you too" even if one has no idea what Googenflotzday is.
Any claim, therefore, that Christmas is "oppressive" to non-Christians is nonsense. I would suspect many liberals might be rather easily pursuaded of this. The next step would be to get them wondering why the ACLU et al. would be trying to stamp out Christmas if the claimed reason for doing so is clearly bogus. And that sort of question might sow the very useful seeds of doubt.
Once liberalism really starts to crack, it won't take four years to collapse. Actually, things are getting near a point--if they're not already there--where I think conservatives could trigger an implosion if they could deliver effectively a simple message: abortion is wrong, but forgivable if one recognizes the error of one's ways and repents.
Although I know a lot of people have had multiple abortions, I suspect a great many people have either had one or else have a friend or loved one that has done so. I suspect that many of these people support abortion because they believe the only way they can feel okay about themselves or loved ones is if they pretend abortion is "okay".
I am thinking the time is coming increasingly near for an Emperor's New Clothes moment. If people start to realize that it's okay to admit having done something horribly wrong, this realization will spread. Once it does, I would expect that not only will support for abortion-on-demand absolutely plummet, but liberal puppets who suddenly realize that their manipulators are to blame for the guilt they've been carrying around year after year are apt to turn on them with a vengeance.
If, I had thought about it, at the time, I would have. In post 41, I believe, I was told that it is in their contract and they are told this very thoroughly by their recruiter.
I am very grateful for what these brave men and women are doing. I wish they could all come home for good. It just can't be at the moment. Maybe shortly after the election.
I have 0 luck talking to Democrats about the ,"right stuff". They are full of hate. He jumped down my throat so fast, I didn't see him coming.
All I can say is they are a bunch of sore losers. There is no need to talk to them, they won't listen.
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