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To: nickcarraway
In a sense, this is "old news"..

It is part of the Lost Years of Jesus as many others have already intimated..
Whether there is any truth to the stories must be left up to the individual..

There was a book called, I believe, "The Jesus Conspiracy" circa 1966-69 or so..( or Conspiracies ) that covered the lost years as part of the whole life of Jesus..

It intimated ( or just flat out claimed as fact ) that upon reaching age 12, and due to the "incident at the temple with the Elders" it was decided that Jesus should enter the preisthood.. and therefore, should recieve a sound education in comparative religions..

Jesus was "apprenticed" to an uncle, Joseph of Arimathea.. ( same one, supplied the crypt ) and that J of A was a travelling merchant.. a far travelling merchant..
That Jesus travelled to England, learned mystic secrets from the Celts and the Druids, and upon returning from his first travels continued into the east..
He travelled through Greece, Persia, India, and into Tibet, possibly even farther east..

It was purported that he not only learned and mastered the highest teachings of those religions, but mastered certain "techniques" of Yoga, meditation, mental and physical self-control, that others spent entire lifetimes attempting to achieve without success..

Thus, he was able to control breathe, heartbeat, temperature, even perception of time..
Likewise, he learned various medicinal secrets, and techniques of self-defense.. ( martial artists like to point out his walking through a crowd of attackers without being touched as a prime example of AIKIDO..)
Also, examples of possible use of pain management techniques, hypnotism, the medical knowledge to bring people back from the dead, and of course, his own resurrection..

The book purported that Jesus engineered his own crucifixion, and the timing...
Due to the Passover holiday, Jesus had to be removed from the cross at sundown..
With his extensive training in eastern religion, he was able to survive the crucifixion and "revive" himself in a burial crypt.. Provided by his own Uncle, who he knew and trusted as a family member..

The book also contends that, having survived his ordeal, Jesus went on to claim his right to the Maccabee line of succession and his place as king of Israel..
Jesus then led several violent revolts against the Romans, but eventually died in battle, either in one of the final battles, or at Masada, taking his own life along with the others that died just before the seige on the mountain fortress ended..

There may have been an alternative concerning Mary Magdelene and moving to Europe with their child, ( the whole Bible Code thing..) but I may be imagining that.. ( I have seen that story too many times to trust my memory on where I saw it first...)

This is not necessarilly my belief, but it was quite a book, and presented quite an entertaining speculation, if nothing else..

34 posted on 12/18/2004 7:51:52 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
There may have been an alternative concerning Mary Magdelene and moving to Europe with their child, ( the whole Bible Code thing..) but I may be imagining that.. ( I have seen that story too many times to trust my memory on where I saw it first...)

Wow! Then did he and Trinity pilot a spaceship into the mainframe to confront the machines and free humanity from the Matrix?

Just kidding. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

47 posted on 12/19/2004 9:25:06 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: Drammach

This link
- http://www.stephen-knapp.com/jesus_taught_bhaktiyoga.htm
outlines the specific types of yoga teachings Jesus learned and adapted to his teaching in the middle east.
Over a period of 15 years I studied a form of yoga, Raj Yoga (royal union), which includes an understanding of bhakti (worship) yoga and karma (action/consequence) yoga.
Having been raised in a christian household, over time I asked some of the senior yogis about Jesus abilities. Their answers provided a significant understanding for me.

To help people understand those answers here I first need to provide three of the principles of Raj Yoga regarding the soul, re-incarnation and karma, and I offer a small expansion to help understand each

1/ the nature and form of us, the soul - is an infintessimally small point of conscient light (re- the bible- this is how we're 'made in God's image' God being light) dwelling in the pineal gland of the brain (hence the hindu recognition with a bindi/dot in the middle of the forehead, where we, the soul, reside - also known as the third eye, or eye of spiritual knowledge).

2/Reincarnation. We the soul are eternal, taking birth after birth in a new body (no rocks, trees or animals note), 'selecting' our parents each time according to our and their karmic vibration at the time of conception.

3/ Karma - responsibility for our physical & spiritual actions as cause and effect. Jesus taught it as reaping what we sow. The modern description - we get back what we give out.


There are a number of particularly interesting things about Jesus and his role with regard to this.

Jesus was a seeker of spiritual truth, hence his travel and study of yoga in India. It was through spiritual study and practice of meditation he achieved the degree of enlightenment specific to him understanding his role and his karma. He knew his role in this birth, and his future. His inevitable role was to rectify his karma, which was not good (persecution by his own people, crucifixion), from previous births by teaching the sowing of the seeds of love and compassion toward eachother, and understanding the only liberation to achieve this comes through God.

His role came to prominence around age thirty (his saturn return for those who understand the astrological significance)when he hosted the pure, Christ soul for the three years of his teaching and performing miracles. Jesus knew he was the vessel, and that his karma was inevitable (he'd be sacrificed for the work of the Christ soul). Jesus was the soul who showed a human nature - anger, fear, sorrow. The Christ soul, so powerful and pure of vibration dis-ease was healed by 'touching the hem of his garment', ability to 'cheat' death, manipulate matter, etc, enabled Jesus to rectify his karma within the space of those three years. Both Jesus and the Christ soul are still here with us going through their individual incarnations - according to the law of reincarnation, and subject to the physical law, as we all are, known as entropy (increasing disorder of matter, decreasing purity of the soul).

What's to come is even more interesting, and we all have our 'take' on it according to the story tellers of our chosen religion. And the most profound thing within the cycle of time is, for us all, that our happiness is inevitable.


55 posted on 01/01/2005 9:51:59 AM PST by jungblood
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