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Posted on 12/18/2004 7:14:21 PM PST by Slyfox

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To: citizencon

That bastard Clooney went on a cross-country tour to promote one of his movies, and he had the gall to say, "The old actors had it easy! Gable never had to do anything like this!" No, he just flew combat missions over Germany, you slug. Also, his wife died crossing the country to promote the sale of war bonds.

I didn't like Clooney before, but it became more than dislike when I heard that ignorant BS.


41 posted on 12/18/2004 8:54:43 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Rastus

I could be wrong, but I don't think Hayden was ever a hardcore commie. He had a flirtation with communism just like a lot of actors did at the time, being ignorant of what it truly was.


42 posted on 12/18/2004 8:57:00 PM PST by silent_jonny (It's CHRISTmas, not Xmas!!!)
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To: Slyfox

Many thanks for the great post. This topic can't be mentioned enough.


43 posted on 12/18/2004 8:59:39 PM PST by Tuba Guy ('I can't recall, I have no memory of that, I don't remember')
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To: silent_jonny

I've read he was miserable during the war - hated every minute of it. But like my Dad, who felt the same way, he stuck it out.

By his death in Vietnam, my Dad served in 3 wars. I heard at most 3-4 sentences about what he did in the wars, apart from joking with friends about what they did in their off-time.

The one complete sentence he DID say that stuck in my mind was, "I was always cold, always tired, always lonely - but there was a job to do so I did it." Then he left the room.

I suspect that was how Jimmy Stewart felt. I know my Dad (a fighter pilot) thought highly of Steward (bombers).


44 posted on 12/18/2004 9:12:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: baseballfanjm

I'm a guy, and I like Hugh Grant for his comedic bumbling nature. He was pretty good in Sense and Sensibility (my wife loves it; not a bad film).

He and Spike were the only worthwhile things to watch in Notting Hill. I could care less about the overrated Julia Roberts.

I don't know if I've seen Hugh in anything else. I've never seen these Bridget Jones things.

I guess what I was trying to get at in my original post is that in the 40's, 50's and 60's, Hollywood leading men were real men, manly men. John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood. Even Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. Now it seems like Hollywood favors the pretty boys, guys who are vulnerable and sensitive.


45 posted on 12/18/2004 9:19:58 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("Supporting the Troops" means you want them to WIN.)
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To: Slyfox

Nice post, Slyfox! It was especially nice seeing Donald Pleasance among the heroes. "The Great Escape" was a wonderful movie.


46 posted on 12/18/2004 9:20:31 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I'll agree with you that Hugh Grant is not a manly man, but he sure is cute. :o)


47 posted on 12/18/2004 9:22:08 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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I'll take your word on that.

I LOVE the Great Escape. One of my absolute, all-time favorites. (I also liked the tribute to Great Escape at the beginning of "Chicken Run," but that's another story.)


48 posted on 12/18/2004 11:14:20 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("Supporting the Troops" means you want them to WIN.)
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To: Slyfox

Bump for later


49 posted on 12/18/2004 11:25:26 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Iraq is a battle in a campaign in a war)
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To: Slyfox

Dont forget Neville Brand (August 13, 1920 - April 16, 1992) Before becoming a television and movie actor, he served in the US Army during World War II and was the fourth most decorated soldier of the war (Actor Audie Murphy being the first).


Gravel-voiced Neville Brand started his big screen career in D.O.A. as a henchman named Chester.

The worst career move of his life was to kill the Elvis Presley character in Love Me Tender. He played the villain in so many movies, his self-image became affected, culminating in a television interview on TV's Entertainment Tonight show with the actor moving about in agitation repeating, "I'm a loser. I'm a loser."

However, he played a very romantic lead in the movie Return From the Sea with Jan Sterling and a heartwarming character who was brain damaged and misunderstood in an episode of the TV show Daniel Boone. He played Hoss Cartwright's (Dan Blocker) Uncle Guntur on Bonanza.

Of the hundreds of roles he has played, he is probably most well known as Al Capone in the TV show The Untouchables. The characterization caused an outcry from the Italian American community over stereotypes.

Many will remember him as Bull Hansom, the prison guard of The Birdman of Alkatraz, and as the antagonistic prisoner in Stalag 17.

Known also for his cowboy roles, he stared in his own TV series, Laredo, with William Smith, Peter Brown, and Claude Akins.

One of the most heart wrenching scenes on TV showed Brand's character, Reese Bennet, waiting in torment when he realizes he has been stood up by the love of his life.

One of the funnier moments was the twin episode in which gruff and dusty Reese has an immaculate and proper lookalike that confounds the other Texas Rangers.

Brand is one of the most vastly underated actors. His acting was on par with James Cagney, except for musicals. His range of emotion was exceptional and his ability to make an audience believe he was the character was deep, even to his own detriment.


50 posted on 12/18/2004 11:36:16 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: silent_jonny
Hayden's friendly testimony before the House Un-American Activities committee marked his complete rupture with communism and he genuinely deserves credit for it. One recent account offers the following:

"Hayden said Communists tried to paralyze entertainment industry labor unions so that all studio workers would eventually be organized under one gigantic union controlled by the party itself, and he was asked what stopped them. 'They ran into Ronald Reagan, who was a one-man battalion.'"
51 posted on 12/18/2004 11:48:12 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I guess what I was trying to get at in my original post is that in the 40's, 50's and 60's, Hollywood leading men were real men, manly men. John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood. Even Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. Now it seems like Hollywood favors the pretty boys, guys who are vulnerable and sensitive.

Agreed. Anyway, sorry for the confusion. : )

52 posted on 12/18/2004 11:49:02 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: Slyfox

bttt


53 posted on 12/19/2004 5:24:20 AM PST by lainde
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To: sonofatpatcher2

Somewhere I read that "Mr. Rogers" was a real war hero,too...
Also, even though John Wayne didn't go (that I know of) he made many pro-american movies, even during Viet Nam, while the rest of Hollywood sat on their hands. I feel he deserves an honorary mention. Definately not "girlie-man" like most of Hollyweird now...


54 posted on 12/19/2004 6:03:39 AM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Miles to go before I sleep...)
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To: Slyfox

yeah ......... propes for the patriotic Hollywood of old and the patriotic British actors too!!!


55 posted on 12/19/2004 6:05:52 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: Slyfox
Robert Stack also served in WWII. He was a world champion shooter and I think served as a gunnery instructor.

I recall seeing an episode of "The Untouchables" in which Stack was shooting a .22 at a shooting gallery. I remember commenting to my Brother that it looked like he really was shooting. Now that I look back, I am sure he was.

56 posted on 12/19/2004 6:15:59 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Rockingham

Voyage: A Novel of 1896 by Sterling Hayden is one of my favorited books.


57 posted on 12/19/2004 6:18:43 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Slyfox

This man isn't really "Hollywood", but he is a great American entertainer who supports our troops in a great way. That man is Wayne Newton. I saw him interviewed on Fox News yesterday, and he has made many trips to Iraq to entertain and encourage our troops.

Kudos to Wayne!


58 posted on 12/19/2004 6:18:46 AM PST by LisaMalia (Merry CHRISTmas!)
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To: silent_jonny
I think Mitchum was a bit of a bad boy in real life too, although he was probably my favorite actor.

When they filmed the first (and best) version of "Cape Fear", Mitchum was very uneasy about being in Savannah, where it was filmed.

Turns out he escaped from a chain gang there many years previously.

59 posted on 12/19/2004 6:19:08 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Slyfox

GI Joe--This is What They Fought For
WWII-Top Pin-Up Girl
Betty Grable

Slyfox, your thread is the most wonderful one I've seen in a while. Thanks for reminding us that there was a time when Hollywood enthusiastically pitched their fame to fight so America remains free.
60 posted on 12/19/2004 6:42:42 AM PST by harpo11 (Merry Christmas Brave USA TROOPS!! God Bless You All)
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