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'Christmas is taboo in America, but now people are fighting back' (77% of US adults are Christians)
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| Dec. 19, 2004
| UK Telegraph News
Posted on 12/18/2004 8:37:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Political correctness is just more tyranny of the minority, trying to suppress religious freedom of the majority.
I found information, that 77% of adults in the US are self-identify as Christians.
This is from the ARIS survey from 2001. This seems the most authoritative, a lot of other sources are quoting this. They surveyed over 50,000 people, not just 1000 or so, as Gallup and other opinion surveys do.
American Religious Identification Survey
This table is also reproduced in a more easily readable format 9regarding the details) in the 2003 Statistical Abstract of the United States, Table 79
So why should the 77% of the people have to almost feel guity, for daring to wish each other and others "Merry Christmas"?
To: FairOpinion
"This is not a Left-Right, Republican-Democrat issue," said Mr Whitehead. "It's about everyone's right to celebrate their religious beliefs as they want. Maybe it shouldn't be a left-right, Republican-Democrat issue. But I'll bet at least 90% of the troublemakers are leftists and Democrats.
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posted on
12/18/2004 8:41:08 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: FairOpinion
It's high time that the majority stood up to the tyranny of the minority.
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posted on
12/18/2004 8:43:07 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
To: FairOpinion
But California officially has a CHRISTMAS TREE, thanks to Arnold.
'Christmas' Returns to the Capitol (CA) (Schwarzenegger)
Ending a five-year tradition started by his predecessor, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger brought the word Christmas back to Sacramento.
Known for breaking the mold, the Republican governor is calling the 56-foot white fir outside the Capitol a Christmas tree. Former Democratic Gov. Gray Davis had renamed the display a Holiday tree in 1999. Schwarzenegger said the Capitol would have a Christmas tree as long as hes in office.
Sticking to his promise, Schwarzenegger frequently used the word Christmas during Thursdays annual tree lighting ceremony.
To: Cicero
I'll bet at least 90% of the troublemakers are leftists and Democrats. You just described the makeup of the ACLU, so I'd say you're 100% correct.
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posted on
12/18/2004 8:47:43 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
To: Prime Choice
Why are symbols of non-Christian religions allowed, but symbols of Christian religion aren't? There is something very wrong here.
"Also last week, a court challenge began in New York to overturn a policy that allows the Jewish menorah and Islamic crescent and star to be displayed in schools, but forbids Nativity scenes."
To: Prime Choice
It's high time that the majority stood up to the tyranny of the minority. Damn straight!
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posted on
12/18/2004 8:51:59 PM PST
by
DTogo
(U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
To: FairOpinion
Jeremiah 10:1-10
- 1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs F49 of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. 6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. 7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. 8 But they are altogether F50 brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities. 9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men. 10 But the LORD is the true F51 God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
Here's something worth your time.
CHRISTMAS... THE UNTOLD STORY
To: FairOpinion
Even Fox News, the conservative television network, cannot bring itself to wish a merry Christmas to its viewers. Instead, "Happy Holidays" is flashed up to the tune but not the words of Ding Dong Merrily on High. I don't know what FOX News this guy has been watching, but while I was reading this I heard "In the Spirit of Christmas......."
FOX has had on beautiful Christmas messages as well as a wonderfully religious Hanukkah message
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:00:07 PM PST
by
McGavin999
(Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
To: FairOpinion
When I read things like this, I can't help but think that the United States does not deserve to go on if they continue to ignore this problem.
Forget fighting terrorists. It is the enemy within that will ultimately lead to your destruction.
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:00:36 PM PST
by
expatguy
(Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
To: Prime Choice
The troublemakers may be leftists, but have you noticed how official Republicans shrink in fear when they are challenged on what the left calls "church/state relations"?
I am not a religious person and claim no religion. I'm not even sure if there really is a god -- BUT the ACLU has gone to far with the seperation of Church and State issue. I support anyone that makes people see what the ACLU is doing is wrong and "against" what the constitution says about it.
Christmas is a time of celebration. The holiday itself has the word Christ in it. If we do not stop these people now, only muslims will be allowed to celebrate religious holidays.
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:03:00 PM PST
by
Jo5329
(Merry Christmas and Happy New Year)
To: Theodore R.
The troublemakers may be leftists, but have you noticed how official Republicans shrink in fear when they are challenged on what the left calls "church/state relations"? That's why our election cycles usually wind up being The Evil Party vs. The Stupid Party.
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:05:58 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
To: FairOpinion
I'm waiting for the no talent assclowns to pitch a fit about the CHRISTMAS tree (and it says Christmas tree) by my town's courthouse.
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:06:30 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
To: Yosemitest
I'm well aware of that tree quote. I first read about it some 20 years ago, in a booklet put out by the Worldwide Church of God (Herbert Armstrong's outfit).
Well, so what? We're not worshiping a Christmas tree, so I don't think that quote applies.
To: Prime Choice
And note Arnold, that many call a RINO, had the courage to stand up to the PC crowd in liberal California, yet, emphasizing Christmas and Christmas tree, ending the "tradition" introduced by Davis, to refer to Christmas tree as "holiday tree".
(see post 4 in this thread)
As someone pointed out, freedom OF religion doesn't mean freedom "from" religion.
Just look at "In God we trust" on all our currency.
To: FairOpinion
And note Arnold, that many call a RINO, had the courage to stand up to the PC crowd in liberal California, yet, emphasizing Christmas and Christmas tree, ending the "tradition" introduced by Davis, to refer to Christmas tree as "holiday tree". I'll give Arnold credit for that, but his most recent statement that the Republican party should shift more to the Left has left me...well...nonplussed.
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posted on
12/18/2004 9:11:18 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
To: Commie Basher
I think that most people don't know WHAT they're doing. I disagree, it very much applies, and is Satan's imitation.
To: Cicero
Most of the activist trouble-makers are liberal Jewish lawyers. The ACLU is heavily Jewish. The Anti-Defamation League is also active in fighting Christmas displays. And as the posted article notes, the the American Jewish Congress was in the thick of the fight against the Chicago Nativity scene. It's not politically correct to say this, but the main instigators of the anti-Christmas crusade are Jewish liberals.
To: FairOpinion
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posted on
12/18/2004 11:24:13 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
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