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To: beaver fever
We're just going in circles.

The bottom line is, for all its faults, the vast majority of Freepers think that our system of justice works just fine, and we are not all that impressed with the record of Sharia throughout the world.

You may have an ideal, peaceful, version of Sharia that you want to get Western countries to adapt, but you will not get very far with us Freepers.

Not too long ago, many of us had to deal with the apologists for Communism. They were people that said the Communism was fine, it just wasn't being implemented properly, and that we should give it a chance. So, we've seen it before.

I'll make you guys a deal. You get the Muslim countries to claim to use Sharia to start respecting human rights, especially for women, and I'll drop my objection to Sharia. But I think that will be a long time, and I may not be around for that day.

But for the United States, at least right now, most of us are never going to support minorities imposing parallel justice systems, however you guys may try to package them, - NEVER.
194 posted on 12/20/2004 7:39:11 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
You're right, we are just going 'round and 'round.

Shira law can kiss my butt. Those who support shira law can kiss my butt as well.

196 posted on 12/20/2004 7:50:29 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: BobL
But for the United States, at least right now, most of us are never going to support minorities imposing parallel justice systems, however you guys may try to package them, - NEVER.

And yet, private arbitration by community and religious leaders (such as the aforementioned Rabbinical courts in Brooklyn) has been going on in this country for decades, if not centuries, without any problems.

People are making a mountain out of a molehill here. Private parties have a lot of latitude when it comes to resolving civil disputes. Other than outlawing private citizens' contract rights, how do you propose to stop something like this?

203 posted on 12/21/2004 6:20:05 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: BobL
I've posted replys on several threads devoted to this subject merely to clear up some misunderstandings about the application of Sharia Law in Canadian Civil Courts.

My personal opinion is that the use of Sharia Law in Canada is a Trojan Horse. If it is applied Muslim Fundamentalists will abuse it to maintain there control over women and you will see blizzard of human rights cases come out it since class action suits are now permitted in Canada.

If that happens the Charter of Rights rulings will set precedents that will effect fundamentalists in other religious groups whose practices and customs are contrary to the Western tradition of Common Law.

I specifically mentioned Sikh and Mormon fundamentalists but other groups could be affected.

It is noteworthy that a large portion of the Ontario muslim community is adamantly opposed to Sharia because they have no faith that the proponents of Sharia will apply it fairly.

A friend of mine from Iran immigrated because he would not live under Sharia. Like most Iranians who immigrate to Canada, he was a professional (a doctor). All Sharia has accomplished in Iran is the mass emigration of the professional middle class. Their loss, our gain.
218 posted on 12/22/2004 7:03:05 PM PST by beaver fever
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