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'A Festivus for the rest of us' starts catching on (HAPPY FESTIVUS!)
Seattle Post ^ | 12/23/04

Posted on 12/23/2004 5:48:43 AM PST by KidGlock

Thursday, December 23, 2004

'A Festivus for the rest of us' starts catching on

By ALLEN SALKIN THE NEW YORK TIMES

Gather around the Festivus pole and listen to a tale about a real holiday made fictional and then real again, a tale that touches on philosophy, King Lear, the pool at the Chateau Marmont hotel, a paper bag with a clock inside and, oh yes, a television show about nothing.

The first surprise is that all over the country, many real people are holding parties celebrating Festivus, a holiday most believe was invented on an episode of "Seinfeld" first broadcast the week before Christmas in 1997.

"More and more people are familiar with what Festivus is, and it's growing," said Jennifer Galdes, a Chicago restaurant publicist who organized her first Festivus party three years ago. "This year many more people, when they got the invite, responded with, 'Will there be an airing of the grievances and feats of strength?' "

Those two rituals -- accusing others of being a disappointment and wrestling -- are traditions of Festivus as explained on the show by the character Frank Costanza. On that episode he tells Kramer that he invented the holiday when his children were young and he found himself in a department store tug of war with another Christmas shopper over a doll. "I realized there had to be a better way," Frank says.

So he coined the slogan "A Festivus for the rest of us" and formulated the other rules: The holiday occurs today, features a bare aluminum pole instead of a tree and does not end until the head of the family is wrestled to the floor and pinned.

The actual inventor of Festivus is Dan O'Keefe, 76, whose son Daniel, a writer on "Seinfeld," appropriated a family tradition for the episode. The elder O'Keefe was stunned to hear that the holiday, which he minted in 1966, is catching on. "Have we accidentally invented a cult?" he wondered.

Maybe.

To postulate grandly, the rise of Festivus, a bare-bones affair in which even tinsel is forbidden, may mean that Americans are fed up with the commercialism of the December holidays and are yearning for something simpler. Or it could be that Festivus is the perfect secular theme for an all-inclusive December gathering (even better than Chrismukkah, popularized by the television show "The O.C."). Or maybe, postulating smally, it's just irresistibly silly.

Interpretations of the holiday's rules differ among Festivus fundamentalists. Take the pole. On the show Frank Costanza says it must be aluminum and "it requires no decoration." But he does not specify what should hold it up nor its exact height.

Krista Soroka, 33, the host of an annual Festivus party in Tampa Bay, Fla., sank her 5-footer into a green plastic pot filled with sand this year. "It's just an aluminum pole," she said, "like Frank says."

Aaron Roberts, 28, a zoology graduate student in Oxford, Ohio, unscrewed a post from a set of metal shelves and sank it through the top of a cardboard box with weights inside.

Mike Osiecki, 26, a financial analyst in Atlanta, scheduled his Festivus gathering for friends and colleagues for tomorrow. He said his pole, which he bought for $10 at Home Depot, is suspended by fishing line on his porch, so "people can stare at it or dance around it if they want to."

In Chicago, Galdes anchored her 6-and-a-half-footer in a Christmas tree stand. "This year I am not having a tree," she said.

Scott McLemee, a writer, and his wife, Rita Tehan, had no pole at all at their party in the Dupont Circle neighborhood in Washington. They are two of the Festivus faithful who held their parties early in December before friends headed home for more traditional affairs.

Dan O'Keefe and his son bless the variations. The original Festivus was constantly in flux.

"It was entirely more peculiar than on the show," the younger O'Keefe said from the set of the sitcom "Listen Up," where he is now a writer. There was never a pole, but there were airings of grievances into a tape recorder and wrestling matches between Daniel and his two brothers, among other rites.

"There was a clock in a bag," said O'Keefe, 36, adding that he does not know what it symbolized.

"Most of the Festivi had a theme," he said. "One was, 'Is there a light at the end of the tunnel?' Another was, 'Too easily made glad?' "

His father, a former editor at Reader's Digest, said the first Festivus took place in February 1966, before any of his children were born, as a celebration of the anniversary of his first date with his wife, Deborah. The word "Festivus" just popped into his head, he said from his home in Chappaqua, N.Y.

The holiday evolved during the 1970s, when the elder O'Keefe began doing research for his book "Stolen Lightning" (Vintage 1983), a work of sociology that explores the ways people use cults, astrology and the paranormal as a defense against social pressures.

Festivus, with classic rituals such as familial gatherings, totemic-but-mysterious objects and respect for ancestors, slouched forth from this milieu. "In the background was Durkheim's 'Elementary Forms of Religious Life,' " O'Keefe recalled, "saying that religion is the unconscious projection of the group. And then the U.S. philosopher Josiah Royce: Religion is the worship of the beloved community."

If O'Keefe is the real father of Festivus, Jerry Stiller, the actor who played Frank Costanza, George Costanza's father, is its Santa Claus.

"I'll take that mantle," Stiller said in an interview from poolside at the Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles, where he was awaiting the premiere of "Meet the Fockers," a new film featuring his real son, Ben Stiller. "I'll wear my crown."

Stiller, 77, has his own interpretation of the Festivus rituals as portrayed on the "Seinfeld" episode, especially the feats of strength, which end with a wrestling match between him and George.

"It was another kind of way with dealing with something else that was going on at the time: the rebelliousness of the son against the father and the father trying to prove he was still stronger than the son," he said. "It was like King Lear." (In this case, though, the old man wins.)

Infused as Festivus is with so much potential meaning, it is not far-fetched to imagine it as a permanent part of the American holiday firmament, said Anthony F. Aveni, a professor of astronomy and anthropology at Colgate and the author of "The Book of the Year: A Brief History of Our Seasonal Holidays" (Oxford University Press, 2002). After all, Halloween used to be an obscure festival observed by few, Kwanzaa was invented by an academic in California in the 1960s, and Hanukkah has been reinvented in modern times to include gift-giving. "Even Christmas comes out of a pagan holiday that happened around the solstice," Aveni said.

The holiday does seem to be evolving.

The Festivus party to be given in Austin, Texas, on Christmas Eve eve by Katherine Willis, an actress, and her husband is to include a backyard game of "pitching washers."

"There's basically a hole in the ground," she said. "You try to throw the washers in the hole, and apparently the more you drink the better you get at it."

A Web site she has set up, www.kwillis.com/festivus.html, provides downloads of a feats of strength challenge card, a list of grievances form and Festivus greeting cards, including one that reads, in a Hallmark-like typeface, "You're a disappointment! Happy Festivus!" Another Web site, www.crazygrrl.com, offers Festivus e-mail cards.

Soroka, in Tampa Bay, who has guests write their grievances in a ledger so she can show it at parties all year long, has added karaoke this year.

Some things just grow. "Last year," said Galdes of Chicago, "there was break dancing. I don't know how that happened."


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To: BibChr
"substantive issue"

Substantive??? If you consider "Festivus" substantive, you absolutely need to get a freakin' life!

It's a holiday about nothing from a show about nothing.

Priorities are so important...

141 posted on 12/23/2004 3:28:34 PM PST by wireman
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To: wireman

I say nicely, you say tht without a grasp of the thread of discussion I was responding to. Yes, what I was referring to was substantive. No, it wasn't Festivus.

Dan


142 posted on 12/23/2004 3:55:03 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
I've used no ad hominems. Just sarcasm.

So far, nothing I've said has even been touched.

So far, I've refuted your post #89 twice. But who's counting?

Joyeux Noel: I'm off to a party.

143 posted on 12/23/2004 3:57:36 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: LexBaird

Once again, never refuted:

"Later Jewish tradition" became the seedbed for a great deal of mischief. I avoid the whole game of "telephone," whether talking with a Jew or a Roman Catholic, by going back to the source. In the Hebrew OT the Name "Yahweh" is used about 6,823 times, all the consonants spelled out as with every other title or name of God.

Not only is it positively not "reverent" to refuse to spell the word "God," it is rather a violation of the many urgings in the Bible to call on His name, swear by His name, take refuge in His name, and the like. There isn't the echo of the shadow of the hint of an example in the pages of God's Word itself for this practice. No prophet is depicted as saying, "Thus says yod-wink-wink-he" (or, to Anglicise it, "Thus says the L-wink-R-D"). Quite the opposite.

Further, being a manmade rule, it devolces quickly into silliness. I note it is not practices with names with theophoric elements. Otherwise, I'd have to be called "Dani-l," or we'd have to speak of the book of "Isai-h."

Like all "improvements" on the Word of God, it isn't. In fact, refusing to obey God's calling on believers to use His name leads the wrong way, and calls attention only to the pecularity of the writer, not the majesty and holiness of God.

Dan


144 posted on 12/23/2004 4:01:33 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: KidGlock


145 posted on 12/23/2004 4:12:00 PM PST by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: BibChr
I'm apparently invisible, but I refuted that here:

Dan.... you are just wrong here. Of course the word "Yahweh" is used in the Old Testament and other holy books. Those works that will be handled with care and respect. The custom is to not write the name on lesser works that will only be thrown away as garbage. If you write the name, that page now should be treated with reverence and kept.

In a sense it is similar to the way we treat American flags different than other pieces of cloth. Once that cloth is a flag, it shouldn't be thrown in the trash.

Whether you want to follow this custom or not really isn't important, the initial point simply being that it was not put to you as a ~curse~ word, but a term of intended respect that contrasts with other abbreviations of Christ to "X" that you found objectionable. Writing G-d in casual writing and Free Republic flame wars in no way interferes with anyone's exclamations of faith, but rather draws attention to the writer's humble obedience. That it angers you is what is peculiar.

146 posted on 12/23/2004 4:13:49 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Irrelevant to anything I said the first time, and still irrelevant this time. It would be irrelevant if you tried it a third time, in case you're considering it.

To be a "refutation," it would have to actually engage something I said, and counter it. Not just say something virtually unrelated, then announce victory.

Dan


147 posted on 12/23/2004 4:17:23 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

I take back my apology. You enjoy being sanctimonious. You apparently take absolute pride in it. Not only do you not concede that Jews avoid casual use of the Name out of respect, and not for your alleged self-glorification or blasphemy, but have the gall to lecture them on the correctness of their beliefs.</p>

I pray that you are content and warm with the feeling that such self-righteousness gives you, and bid you good day.


148 posted on 12/23/2004 4:21:18 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: HairOfTheDog

Thanks for the ping. I got a lot done while this conversation was going on.

I asked the question because I thought it was ironic that people insist on fully writing out the name (or title) Christ in Christmas, even though Xmas is commonly recognized to mean the same thing, while others are equally insistent that the name (title) of God never be fully written out. In one case, we must write the name, in the other, we must not, yet both are truly our Lord.

Given the context of the argument, I thought of the Pharasees and their insistence on the rigorous application of rules and laws, while they completely missed the entire concept of love, forgiveness, and honor to the Father.

I hope God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit will take mercy on us and will bless us all despite our shorthand usage or other errors that we may commit, typographical or otherwise.

I believe that to type "Xmas" when you mean "Christmas" is far better than to type "Christmas" when you mean nothing.

Merry Christmas to all.


149 posted on 12/23/2004 4:23:47 PM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: TN4Liberty; LexBaird; BibChr

Yes, it got silly. And it's a crying shame really.

Merry Christmas to all of you and may you have health joy and peace in the new year..


150 posted on 12/23/2004 4:27:54 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: LexBaird

Also already answered, post 114, among others.

Dan


151 posted on 12/23/2004 7:00:36 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: KidGlock

" ...a backyard game of "pitching washers". There's basically a hole in the ground, she said. You try to throw the washers in the hole, and apparently the more you drink the better you get at it. "


In the last round of the game they fill the washers with water to make them heavier and harder to throw.


152 posted on 12/23/2004 10:03:15 PM PST by spinestein
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To: monday

The first Seinfeld episode I ever watched was the finale. I had to see what all the hype of the past years was all about.

Then I checked out a couple reruns and remained hooked.


153 posted on 12/23/2004 10:19:31 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: HairOfTheDog; gregwest

"It spoofed so many different meaningless things that people got so worked up about"

Exactly!

"It's okay, my boyfriend's black."

"He's black?"

"I'm black?"

"I'll give you a couple minutes to decide."

And:

"Excuse me, you must know where the Chinese restaurant is around here."

"Why must I know? Oh, Honorable Chinese mailman must know where every Chinese restaurant is!"


154 posted on 12/23/2004 10:34:32 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: BibChr

Dan,

You celebrate Christmas, then in somebody's eyes you're a heretic. You neglect Christmas, in somebody's eyes you're a heretic. You go to church on Sunday instead of Saturday, in somebody's eyes you're a heretic. You believe in universal salvation, in somebody's eyes you're a heretic. You believe in elective salvation, in somebody's eyes you're a heretic.

All of us who deeply love Christ are all heretics. Relax and join the club.


155 posted on 12/23/2004 10:39:45 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: monday
Only the self righteous among us scold others about nonsense like you do.

"Self-righteous" should have been hyphenated.

156 posted on 12/23/2004 11:08:17 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

I'm a non-practicing Protestant who hasn't set foot in church in at least twenty (maybe more) years. I have fond memories from my youth and remain friends with two of the kids with whom I attended Sunday school classes.

I've chosen a road that I walk with my family and friends, with NO need for organized religion. Meeting people with an attitude like that of BibChr make the prospect of ever returning to church totally unappealing.

Merry Christmas, Happy Festivus, and Happy New Year!

~ Blue Jays ~

157 posted on 12/23/2004 11:11:20 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Festivus is more real than Kwanzaa.


Anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa is Kwazee.


158 posted on 12/24/2004 3:05:06 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: BibChr

Thanks for doing everything in your power to kill a fun thread.


159 posted on 12/24/2004 3:49:31 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: Larry Lucido

All true.

Except you're too tense about being relaxed. You must be a heretic!

JK!

I don't really know what you mean, specifically, though. Give in to my culture? I don't think that's what FR is about. It isn't for me, anyway. Shrug off slander and illogic? Well, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. So maybe you'll have to see me as a tension-heretic.

Dan
(c;


160 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:23 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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