Posted on 12/23/2004 5:53:32 PM PST by Jane_N
Here in Genesis 22:1-2 is the template for what would happen with Jesus...yet Jesus was't commanded to do anything...he did it of His own free will...in that way, He was in the role of both Abraham and Isaac (He was the offerer and the sacrifice)...
"1": And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. "2": And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Another point that has been made by both Hebrew and Christian scholars is that Isaac bored the wood (to be used in the burnt sacrifice) on his own shoulders just as Jesus bore the wooden cross.
I wish someone would tell the President (unless he already knows and is just being clever).
As you have said, God wants our love (which can only be freely offered or it isn't love)...
...and Satan demands submission (demanded in anger, given out of fear).
Jesus is Yahweh of the Hebrew bible! He is God!
Sounds a lot like those that support Nostradamus. After the fact they see all these things that fit!
One came to serve.
The other came to be served, by as many dhimmis as could be attained.
Discussing religion with an atheist is like discussing modern art with your accountant.
Which is why I don't do it.
No, this doesn't refer just to Islam, it refers to all of us.
The cowards who want us to draw the sword against innocent and defenseless Moslems are referred to here.
No, he isn't.
Be that as it may, prophecy IS the validating characteristic of divine pronouncement.
There is an old latin proverb that says improper use does not invalidate proper use.
Of course, you are correct. While the hatred in Islam is evil, it is also contagious.
And Satan just smiles as we respond with the same kind of anger and hatred Islam pours out against us...its like starting a fire that just keeps spreading.
I spent much of last night tossing and turning over this very issue. How do we kill Islam without catching its disease ourselves? Surely, there is a way.
And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Finding a way to justify killing innocent and defenseless Muslims keeps you up at night?
God works in mysterious ways.
He was definitely telling Peter to stop, as well as continuing to teach His Church, but it could be that He was also referring specifically to islam and mohammed's sword. I think it's one of those things that fits into the following scripture:
The Apostle Paul writes in 1st Corinthians 13:12 - "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known".
Are you being hasty or just twisting another's words for pleasure.
I said nothing about killing innocents...I spoke about killing an evil religion.
What did Jesus do when one of those very two swords was used?
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
You raise an interesting question...
I don't know if here (Luke 22:36) Jesus is speaking about what is going to happen later that night (when Judas brings the cops) and someone (Peter probably) whacks off an ear (i.e. is Jesus getting the details laid out for another miracle as it were)...
...or if he is saying "get a sword for later warfare..."
That wasn't the question.
From the context I assume you find in Jesus's words justification for killing innocent and defenseless people who belong to the wrong religion.
It would be good for a laugh to see how you would do that. So please go ahead.
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