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Howard's End? (One strike and Stern's out)
CNN Money ^ | 12/23/04 | Krysten Crawford

Posted on 12/25/2004 5:20:14 AM PST by raccoonradio

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To: raccoonradio
I'm not buying it until Rush is on the satellite.
41 posted on 12/25/2004 7:06:58 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: raccoonradio

sirius made an audacious and foolhardy move when they did this. I said so then, say so now. They're both doomed to obscurity, barring a miracle of repentence or some such.


42 posted on 12/25/2004 7:23:36 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: raccoonradio

One thing missing from all of this, is why doesn't Viacom fight Michael Powell, and the FCC in court??? Michael Powell is violating 1st ammendment rights!

Howard's biggest gripe is that Clear Channel took him off the air to avoid any heat from the FCC. Viacom's attorneys worked out "deals", rather than fight a constitutional battle that these broadcasters would win. BTW, Howard says he isn't going to "sensitivity training", he never agreed to any of these consessions.

Howard driving force is to bankrupt Clear Channel, that took him off in 9 markets, without paying him. He was not in violation of his contract with them.

To spite what one thinks about the content of his show, this is a constitutional arguement, a very important one. Howard Stern is in the scope of Michael Powell, while he turns his back on all similiar targets. The networks need to fight back.


43 posted on 12/25/2004 7:27:19 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: MKM1960
Music would be a great improvement.

Silence would be a great improvement. I would not say "music" unless I knew more about Mr Stern's taste in music. Somehow I misdoubt that it is any better than his taste, full stop.

"This is Howard Stern coming at you with 60,000 watts of sub-literate rap... are you ready to PAR-tay?"

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

44 posted on 12/25/2004 7:51:10 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Poser

Dittos!


45 posted on 12/25/2004 7:54:02 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: raccoonradio

When it comes to music, there's nothing like a good CD player, preferably a recent one that will also play MP3. Then you can play what you like.


46 posted on 12/25/2004 7:59:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: raccoonradio

We had Stern here in Minneapolis for a while. The local guy kicked his ass in the ratings.

Stern coming to town was big news. The local "shock" DJ, Tom Barnard, reacted by... doing nothing. He didn't even acknowlege that Stern was on in the same market. Stern did some on-air tirades about how Barnards time was up, he was finished, blah blah blah. Still, Barnard just kept business as usual and never mentioned Stern.

Six months later, Stern was off the air here in Minnesota, but picked up "Crazy Cabe" from the Tom Barnard program for some reason. Cabe was in idiot, and I was glad to see him gone. I was glad to see them BOTH gone.

When I listened to Stern, he just didn't live up to his reputation. Among the things I remember from his program is an hour long analysis of a Chemical Brothers song and Hank the drunken dwarf. Robin Quivers' hideous cackle accompanied it all. I guess she was the news woman AND the laugh track. It was miserable radio.

Stern's career doesn't mean a fig to me, I guess. As for the FCC, well, it IS the public airwaves. One can get arrested by slinging obscenities around in the public square or behaving lewdly, and technically, the airwaves are of little difference.

It'll be interesting to see how the chips fall on this, though.

Merry Christmas

APf


47 posted on 12/25/2004 8:35:50 AM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The Flying Burrito Bros...... the best... saw them twice.. close up the honkey tonks


48 posted on 12/25/2004 8:40:43 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: fuzzycat

An Apple Sirius collaberation would be outstanding. One of my favorite parts about Sirius is the title/artist feature. Problem is, half the time I can't find a pen and paper to write them down before I forget.


49 posted on 12/25/2004 8:43:45 AM PST by babaloo
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To: Archangelsk
I've bought into the logic that I want to hear what I want to hear without the interjection of inane commercials, listless music, blathering know-nothing "talent" and, most importantly, censorship.

My car, which I bought in April, came with XM. I can't remember the last time I listened to local FM stations since XM gives you far more choices, with little or no commercial interruption. I still do tune into AM for local sports, news, weather, etc., but commercial FM radio is going to get killed by satellite.

50 posted on 12/25/2004 8:45:34 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: fuzzycat
Rumors about something with Apple and Sirius abound.

I'm buying an iPod if the rumors proove to be true.

51 posted on 12/25/2004 8:46:39 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: Archangelsk

Your estimate of how much of his audience Stern will take with him may be open to debate. You have to buy the hardware to get satellite radio and then $13.00 a month to subscribe, the hardware costs between $150.00 and $200.00 bucks. So how many people are really going to shell out that much money to listen to Howard? That will be the big question. I just got satellite radio today for XMAS and I am excited only because I don't have to listen to local crummy radio any more.


52 posted on 12/25/2004 8:46:40 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I have heard the quality is stunning on XM..

that said, I have a very large CD and LP collectin. On the public radio waves, I listen only to talk radio.


53 posted on 12/25/2004 8:50:16 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: APFel

We've had several of the shock jocks on radio here and they all failed. Local or national, they all flamed out. The only people who listen to shock jocks are overgrown 8th graders. We just don't have that many around here.


54 posted on 12/25/2004 8:50:40 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: raccoonradio

Ping


55 posted on 12/25/2004 8:52:10 AM PST by VNam68 (Merry Xmas to everyone!!!)
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To: Archangelsk
His move, in my opinion, is the end of free radio as we know it

You mean free radio as YOU know it.

Stern at one time was funny, but his show seem to have morphed into a littany of lesbian-butthole jokes.

Quite frankly, once in a while a lesbo joke might be kinda funny. But he has become so intent on being "cutting edge" that he can't do anything else.

When he goes to Sirius, he will be unable to bring along his main audience of young horny males aged 13-28 because most of them are too poor or too young to have a credit card with which to sign up for fee-based radio.

I predict that Stern will slowly disappear into the annals (ahem) of American radio history. Most current listeners will get along just fine without him, and might in fact even turn their attention to other whacky type of DJs, even if they are not promoting lesbian-orgy type shows.

56 posted on 12/25/2004 8:59:28 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Cicero
When it comes to music, there's nothing like a good CD player, preferably a recent one that will also play MP3. Then you can play what you like.

Got that right
JUst converted almost 5000 Big Band Country Gospel to MP3 That's all my truck CD player gets fed these days Modern country sucks ( got to listen to 10 semi hard rock pop blather for every ONE REAL COUNTRY ) and BIG BAND is DEAD
57 posted on 12/25/2004 9:01:40 AM PST by uncbob
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To: raccoonradio

Stern appeals to the sophomopric voyeur in all males--I don'[t think he's so hot for women.

But for him to claim that his show is a valuable contribution to our culture or society is ridiculous.


58 posted on 12/25/2004 9:02:28 AM PST by wildbill
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To: pookie18
Thanks for the correction.

It was an autobiographical work written by Stern, though I've only read snippets from the book, so I couldn't tell you that much about it.

The movie itself was executed pretty well, though it didn't live up to the promotional hype put out by "The King of all Media."

59 posted on 12/25/2004 9:27:24 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Why did it take me so long to come up with a new tag-line, huh?! What's up with that?)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Your point about Quivers is well-taken.

She's probably the most grating, irritating personality, this side of Janene Garafalo.

I know that Jackie Martling has come in for his share of ribbing from Stern's audience, but the man was Moliere compared to that cackling, irrelevant harpy.

60 posted on 12/25/2004 9:30:01 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Why did it take me so long to come up with a new tag-line, huh?! What's up with that?)
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