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To: SpiritualPatriot
As a former automotive design engineer, I can tell you "the most celebrated and technologically advanced" features and functions are a) engineered in an irrationally compressed timeframe to satisfy the program manager's (and corporate's) exceptionally aggressive schedule, b) thoroughly tested by "simulation" and only partially tested with real hardware because it costs money and time to actually test "real" hardware (and the models are SOOOO good [NOT!]), and c) manufactured in an outsourced, non-English speaking country, where manufacturing engineering is sporatic at best.

Which is why only a looney buys the first model year!!! I learned my lesson when young with a 1954 Mercury, the first year with the OHV V8. I have spent a lifetime trying to forget the experience.

Still have dreams about the '58 Studebaker Golden Hawk, though..WHY did I sell that!!!?

51 posted on 12/26/2004 6:25:53 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon
Which is why only a looney buys the first model year!!! Amen!!

Heads-up - watch out for the next latest and greatest - steer and brake by wire. Not for me, thank you very much. Don't want to be around when those cheap connectors corrode and short out (or open ...).

62 posted on 12/26/2004 6:42:40 PM PST by SpiritualPatriot
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To: Gorzaloon
Which is why only a looney buys the first model year!!! I learned my lesson when young with a 1954 Mercury, the first year with the OHV V8. I have spent a lifetime trying to forget the experience.
1991 Lexus LS400. Probably the most reliable car ever produced. 1993 Toyota Supra. Solid as a rock. Both first model year cars.

Toyota learns from "lesser cars". If you drive a 1989 Cressida, you'll know where Lexus got it's refinement. They constantly refine parts and tecnologies and use the resulting products in newer models.

Case in point is the Prius. They didn't start out with a Lexus hybrid (which is coming). They started out with a econobox.

They totally respect the luxury car buyer by supplying them with a car that has the benefit of proven parts and technologies. Put another way - Lexus owners are never beta testers.

70 posted on 12/26/2004 7:18:12 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Gorzaloon

I must live in the projects, compared to some of you folks.

A 1992 Thunderbird, and a 2000 Taurus.

Never left me anywhere but the place I wanted to go.

Saved a fortune...spent it all this Christmas.


71 posted on 12/26/2004 7:31:41 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Gorzaloon

I must live in the projects, compared to some of you folks.

A 1992 Thunderbird, and a 2000 Taurus.

Never left me anywhere but the place I wanted to go.

Saved a fortune...spent it all this Christmas.


72 posted on 12/26/2004 7:32:41 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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