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Why the Japanese Internment Still Matters
War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | December 28, 2004 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 12/28/2004 7:55:25 AM PST by forty_years

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To: Poohbah
Profiling is not under discussion, here, dumbs**t, arrest and long-term detention of persons without probable cause (aka "false imprisonment") is.

Weren't the Japanese profiled for internment? Aren't we making a mistake by not profiling the Muslims in this country? Weren't you talking about the problems profiling men as rapists?

Were any non-Japanese arrested and sent into long-term detention without probable cause?

You are taking issue precisely because of profiling, Japanese, star chamber, false-imprisonment of Japanese, not anyone else.

Internment of the Japanese, at that time and under those conditions was the best to be made out of a foul situation. If we had gone your way, we probably would have had a lot more Americans killed, hurt the pacific theater effort, and gotten innocent Japanese Americans killed.

Life sucks, you know, when there are hard choices to be made.

101 posted on 12/28/2004 9:03:45 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Poohbah
And this justifies the argument for detaining Americans of a minority group you dislike because...?

It doesn't. You said, "And I asked an equally valid question: How many rapes (and concomitant murders) are you willing to accept before you could think about imprisoning interning all men in concentration detention camps?

I was illustrating the difference in the two classes of offense, if war can be called an "offense".

Governments always abuse power, because people run them and people abuse power. But, either you have a government or you don't, and emergency procedures for emergency situations are one of the legitimate functions of a government.

In the case of Japanese, when it was safe to let 'em, we did.

I don't trust government any more than you do, but we have to do something, because living in large groups has so much benefit.

The Japanese situation was then, and it was handled in non-permanent ways. Now it may be different. This government has reached its senile stage, for the type of government it is.

Soon, there will be tyranny, whether by force or deceit, also the fate of our type of government. Then there will be blood and renewal.

Suck it up.

102 posted on 12/28/2004 9:31:48 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: forty_years

bttt


103 posted on 12/28/2004 9:54:06 PM PST by lainde
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Congressman Billybob
Pipes shows that the idea that the Japanese were interned solely because of their race is typical liberal BS. Liberal girly-men will whine and complain about this but never about the internment of Germans and Italians.

American citizens of German and Italian descent were not interned without having to show probable cause. American citizens of Japanese descent were.

You'd better thank God that Bubba Clinton didn't take this line of reasoning on April 19th, 1995, because otherwise you'd still be in "temporary emergency detention" as a "radical right-wing extremist."

BTW, are you calling our own Congressman Billybob a liberal girly-man?

104 posted on 12/29/2004 4:50:53 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: hchutch
Michelle Malkin is clearly a sleeper agent for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front and ought to be thrown into the deepest cell in Leavenworth.

Why do I say this? Well, she's Filipina - that's all I need.

Apparently that is her position on interning Muslims. I believe that those to propound such positions ought to be first against the wall.

105 posted on 12/29/2004 11:15:52 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: sheltonmac
Forced internment of anyone who hasn't committed a crime has no place in a nation built in the name of liberty.

Sure it does, so longh as it's only those Mooselimbs and them damn Mexicans, and those things that don't speak English, and... (/mocking-bigotry)

106 posted on 12/29/2004 11:23:11 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: staytrue
NO ONE wants to intern the muslims,

Not true; that (and worse - Krystallnacht) has been seriously proposed by some persons writing on this site.

107 posted on 12/29/2004 11:24:41 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Paulus Invictus; Poohbah

Amazing, isn't it?

Of course, I am starting to have my own suspicions as to why Michelle Malkin would defend internment camps and rehabilitate the entire notion of internment in general. I think she aims to see it applied elsewhere.


108 posted on 12/29/2004 11:34:11 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: hchutch

Now WTF sort of statement is that? Be specific. Who do you claim she would intern? You? So called "militias?" Christians? Just who precisely? Stop beating around the bush.


109 posted on 01/04/2005 10:54:36 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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