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Satan Worshipper, Witch Testing Religious Liberty
New York Sun ^ | 12/24/2004 | LUIZA Ch. SAVAGE

Posted on 12/28/2004 8:13:52 AM PST by bedolido

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To: Rodney King
....but there is no reason why the state should have to accomodate every crackpot criminal who claims his weird beliefs are a religion

I get nervous whenever the Govt gets in the practice of deciding what is a "legitimate" religion and what's not.

I would guess that most people think other people's religions equal "weird beliefs".

41 posted on 12/28/2004 9:07:43 AM PST by gdani
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To: bedolido
From another thread titled:

Less than half of all Britons now believe in God: survey ^

Results of,...'Clockwork Orange'.....BBC Pervert T.V. coming to a living room near you?

/sarcasm

42 posted on 12/28/2004 9:11:29 AM PST by maestro
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To: gdani

I see your point... I guess I just have never understood prisoners suing over their rights being violated. I mean, of course their rights are being violated. They are being detained in a cell all day long.


43 posted on 12/28/2004 9:14:00 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I did that. And, when I say the Pledge I say "under Gods," instead of just "under God". And?

I see you were a Marine 'Winger from '88-'94. I was one from '86-'95. Quite possibly you were the guy I remember. Small world, eh?

By the way, I found it amusing not because I thought the viewpoint was trite, which I didn't, but because of the awkwardness of having the religious tolerance policies tested. It was a good demonstration that those policies were not just lip service, but would actually be followed.

44 posted on 12/28/2004 9:16:52 AM PST by Antonello
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To: bedolido

45 posted on 12/28/2004 9:34:07 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Rodney King
. . . but there is no reason why the state should have to accomodate every crackpot criminal who claims his weird beliefs are a religion.

Asatru and other obscure religions may seem like "weird beliefs" to you and me, however they are long standing recognized religions.

46 posted on 12/28/2004 9:42:54 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Antonello

Where were you stationed? I was a 400 Div Engine Mechanic. First station was at Beaufort, SC with MALS-31.


47 posted on 12/28/2004 9:56:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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48 posted on 12/28/2004 10:10:35 AM PST by UnklGene
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To: bedolido

"The case was filed by a group of Ohio inmates..."

That's as far as I got. Let the General Population *work it out*, and stop wasting taxpayer money.


49 posted on 12/28/2004 10:24:05 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: bedolido; PFC

If the orthodox Jews, Mormons, ACLU, and People for the American Way all agree on something, it must be right.


50 posted on 12/28/2004 10:38:19 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Bluegrass Conservative; Kurt_D

Actually Asatru is a legitmate and well-organized religion. The article is misleading in that poor paragraph structure implies that the inmate whose religion has ties to the KKK and the inmate who adheres to the Asatru religon are the same person. Ain't so -- Asatru is very serious about keeping any white supremacist stuff out of its ranks. The first sentence of the article is clearer, listing "a white supremacist" separately from "an adherent of an ancient Viking religion".


51 posted on 12/28/2004 10:42:41 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: kjvail

That may be who Asatru is practiced in prisons, but it's not how it's practiced outside of prisons. Surf around a bit.


52 posted on 12/28/2004 10:46:13 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

So do they also forfeit the right to practice Christianity?


no.


53 posted on 12/28/2004 11:11:13 AM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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To: bedolido

You mean John and Therezzza did this?


54 posted on 12/28/2004 11:37:51 AM PST by RockinRight (Let's start now-Mark Sanford for President in 2008!)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Didn't the Aztecs have this religion where they cut out a guy's heart as the form of human sacrifice? What's wrong with human sacrifice, isn't a hanged man part of worshiping Odin?
55 posted on 12/28/2004 12:03:38 PM PST by Woodworker
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Didn't the Aztecs have this religion where they cut out a guy's heart as the form of human sacrifice? What's wrong with human sacrifice, isn't a hanged man part of worshiping Odin?

I think there have been court cases that have dealt with this subject. If I'm not mistaken, it's always been upheld that "freedom of religion" does not extend so far as to cause bodily harm to another.

56 posted on 12/28/2004 12:06:26 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Woodworker
Actually, Odin hung by one of his legs from Yaggdrassil to learn the secret of the Runes. Not by his neck. He sacrificed his own eye for wisdom.

If a bunch of prisoners want to go around hanging themselves, why is this a bad thing? Especially if they get the part about where the rope is supposed to go wrong...

57 posted on 12/28/2004 12:18:13 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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Didn't the Aztecs have this religion where they cut out a guy's heart as the form of human sacrifice?

And don't the Conquistadors and other Europeans drink the blood of some human who gave himself up for a sacrifice?

58 posted on 12/28/2004 12:20:43 PM PST by berserker
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To: Dead Corpse
Where were you stationed?

I did a good chunk of time at C&E school in the stumps, but was also at MACS-2 there in Beaufort. I also served as I&I staff at a reserve squadron, and spent some time in Okinawa, too.

59 posted on 12/28/2004 1:13:43 PM PST by Antonello
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
I would rather be stuck with a Viking than a Packer. LOL

Well done.

60 posted on 12/28/2004 4:07:02 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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