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Tsunami-hit Maldives declares emergency
Reuters UK ^
| 12-28-04
| http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=644607
Posted on 12/28/2004 9:57:38 AM PST by dr_pat
...Maldives President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom has spent much of his 26 years in power warning of the dangers that global warming, erosion and shifting weather patterns pose to low-lying island nations like his own.
...Gayoom has appealed for international assistance.
"We still face the threat of sea level rise," he told Reuters in a recent interview. "There is encroachment of the sea on many islands, there is erosion of our beaches."
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.co.uk ...
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; maldives; reuters; sumatraquake; tsunami
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To: dr_pat
To: dr_pat
I've been watching the seismic news from Golden, CO since we heard about this. The Earth has been ringing like a bell. Swarms of small shocks in the Basin-and-Range extensional zone. It just blows me away that anyone can seriously think the [putative] increase of ocean depth by an inch or so would be sufficient to trigger this! Please clarify, I've been monitoring western quakes and haven't seen what you're describing. Intermountain seismic belt seems to be at normal levels as well as California.
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posted on
12/28/2004 11:35:39 AM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
To: dr_pat
>>>
there is erosion of our beaches."<<< Yep....that's what oceans do!
To: reagan_fanatic
>>>
What's Halliburton's role in all of this?<<< There was actually a guy on radio (I think on Rush's Roger Hedgecock show)that tried to make a case that we are weakening the earth's crust by drilling for oil......
Halliburton helps oil drillers......
The Luddites are out in force - and they are picking up more and more adherents from the left!
To: Godzilla
I've been monitoring western quakes... Intermountain seismic belt seems to be at normal levels...
I use this
USGS site, which will send me an eMail upon certain kinds of clustering activity, as well as quakes over a specified magnitude.
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posted on
12/28/2004 1:42:01 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: dr_pat
use this USGS site, which will send me an eMail upon certain kinds of clustering activity, as well as quakes over a specified magnitude. That fine and good, I visit the site weekly as well as the CA site (since I live here) daily. There are no discernable upticks in activity. On the contrary, things appear to be quite normal and in CA on the quiet side. So please expand upon your statement that activity levels have increased (or how ever you phrased it in your earlier post). Thanks.
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posted on
12/28/2004 1:48:10 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
To: HardStarboard
guy on radio (I think on Rush's Roger Hedgecock show)that tried to make a case that we are weakening the earth's crust by drilling for oil
In
Science magazine in 1999, a warning was sounded about the dangers of drilling for oil on the ocean bottom. Specifically, two scientists were warning about the
release of methane from clathrates contributing to further global warming, and the
physical triggering of sea-floor quakes due to subsidence following removal of oil from the sea-bed layers, leading to
tsunamis.
Halliburton was not mentioned, possibly because this warning occured in September 1999 [grin], and was a tiny quote in an article about China clamping down on mining.
Interestingly, this is the ONLY reference to present-day conditions that comes up in
Scholar Google on this topic.
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posted on
12/28/2004 1:57:05 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: Godzilla
Basin-and-Range extensional faulting covers western California (e.g. Death Valley), Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and (fingers) up into the Snake River plain. Clusters of small quakes (1-2.5 Richter) were reported following the 9.0 temblor off Sumatra's coast on Boxing Day, peaking at times concordant with the expected arrival times for S, P and Rayleigh waves.
The frequency may be ultra-sub-sonic, but the Earth rang like a bell.
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posted on
12/28/2004 2:18:19 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: dr_pat
I am aware of the extent of the Basin and Range Provence. Triggering of minor earthquakes as a result of major quakes is not unknown, most recently documented after a recent Alaskan quake (with an interesting article on changes in geyser behavior in Yellowstone).
Clusters of small quakes (1-2.5 Richter) were reported following the 9.0 temblor off Sumatra's coast on Boxing Day, peaking at times concordant with the expected arrival times for S, P and Rayleigh waves.
Are you referring to seismograph stations throughout the region. All indeed did record the multiple waves generated Dec 26. If that is what you are talking about, then I fully agree that the earth was ringing like a bell as all the seismic waves bounced throughout the earth.
However, the USGS website does not show the numbers you are inferring and perhaps the arrivals of the Sumatra waves generated initial false readings until reviewed by the seismological staff. Since the sites keep track of epicenters for a period of one week, all these should still be posted. New Mexico is quiet, same for most of Idaho (minus Yellowstone Park area)and northern NV is quiet. The Utah-Montana sub map shows only 3 quakes originating on Dec 26. The S.CA, NV, UT submap shows approximately the same number of posted quakes before and after Dec 26. The current USGS postings do not support these clusterings of 1-2.5 range quakes unless you are refrain to something else not posted on these maps. Please clarify.
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posted on
12/28/2004 2:46:59 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
To: dr_pat
I guess no one told the maldives president about the little 9.0 earthquake that caused this.
To: Godzilla
I defer to your expertise, since I'm not a Licensed Professional Geologist in California.
...note to self: take bigger egg to Grandma next time...
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:04:08 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: dr_pat
My license(P.G.)is from another state (not accepted here in CA - R.G.) and maintained for professional purposes. I am still interested in what you observed on these sites because I didn't look closely at them. I was focusing on world sites that day and not looking for US responses.
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:11:40 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
To: WildTurkey
NOWHERE in the article does it state that it was caused by global warming as the original thread headline stated. The very fact that they mention global warming in the article is they are trying to 'link' it to the tsunami. And that is all the CNS article did was say 'link' not 'cause'. If you can't admit the obvious attempt by the loonies at Reuters to constantly trumpet the gloom and doom of globull warming, you have not been paying attention. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the CNS story was more than fair to these loonies. Just mentioning global warming and its dangers in this article is a lame attempt to link global warming to the tsunami.
To: dr_pat
Well here in the PNW we have a good vocanic blow such as other parts of the world does and it rebuilds the coast line just fine.....somebody get this man a volcano! (sarcasm, of coarse)
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posted on
12/29/2004 3:12:53 AM PST
by
oceanperch
(2005 is going to be an Awesome Year, IMO)
To: The Teen Conservative
Are you really a teen?
Just so I can watch my lip and stuff while on a thread.
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posted on
12/29/2004 3:15:32 AM PST
by
oceanperch
(2005 is going to be an Awesome Year, IMO)
To: Godzilla
Thanks for your patience. I just feel very nervous about posting my own interpretations of station recordings. Fortunately, there is also this
post here that addresses the topic:
The quake demonstrated that when hit hard enough, Earth "rings like a bell," according to John Derr, a seismologist with the Geological Survey in Albuquerque.
The frequency at which Earth rings is far lower than any ordinary bell, beyond anything you could hear. But when struck with the force of Sunday's magnitude 9.0 quake, the ringing can last for days.
Located at Kirtland Air Force Base, the Survey's seismometer continued to show weak echoes of the quake Tuesday afternoon in the form of pulses of movement in the Earth's crust every five to six minutes.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:33:14 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: dr_pat
I just feel very nervous about posting my own interpretations of station recordings. I don't want to make you feel that way. I am not a seismologist either. But then some geologists can be sticklers for accuracy in interpreting data.
The quake demonstrated that when hit hard enough, Earth "rings like a bell," according to John Derr, a seismologist with the Geological Survey in Albuquerque.
I never disagreed with you on how the ringing like a bell would be an appropriate comparison or word picture. What I did question is the association with and abundance of 1-3.0 (or what ever it was you origionally posted) richter quakes in the basin and range province. What may be confusing is that these seismographs recorded the 'ringing' and projected false low level seismic reports (which apparently were removed after review by a seismologist) and not posted on the USGS web site.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:44:55 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
To: Godzilla
...apparently were removed after review by a seismologist) and not posted on the USGS web site
That never occured to me! I was watching nearly real-time thanks to a ping from the USGS site re: clusters in B&R, and pointing out to my spouse (who is also an engineer from CSMines) the arrival of the echoes from the 9.0 off Sumatra.
As engineering students, we were pounded into the state of mind that hesitates to post speculation in an area of non-expertise. That's why I blog
books instead of quakes! [grin]
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:51:54 PM PST
by
dr_pat
(the boys i mean are not refined, they shake the mountains when they dance!)
To: dr_pat
That never occured to me! I was watching nearly real-time thanks to a ping from the USGS site re: clusters in B&R, and pointing out to my spouse (who is also an engineer from CSMines) the arrival of the echoes from the 9.0 off Sumatra. LOL, I'm a Montana School of MInes and Geol. grad (Mt Tech). Maybe thats the difference.
As engineering students, we were pounded into the state of mind that hesitates to post speculation in an area of non-expertise.
In the environmental field, part of my job description is helping to keep engineers humble (ducking). I'll be checking out you blog later.
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posted on
12/30/2004 6:06:44 PM PST
by
Godzilla
(You're jealous because the voices speak only to me.)
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