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To: pgkdan
was born in Our Lady of Lourdes hospital, went to St anthony of Padua School and lived in the Cramer Hill section of the city in the 60's. It was urban, but Cramer Hill was still a community back then. I was there 2 years ago and felt as if I'd entered some weird parallel universe where everything was ugly and bombed out. Our old house was still lived in but about 6 of the other 9 houses in the row were collapsed. The block literally looked bombed out.

I was born in Cooper Hospital, but a few years ago I spent a lot of time at Lourdes when a family member was ill. The Camden hospitals still offer the best care for the seriously ill outside of Philadelphia.

Camden is so depressing that I have a great deal of sympathy for anyone who has the misfortune of living or working there.

42 posted on 12/29/2004 7:40:36 AM PST by independentmind
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To: independentmind

The Detroit Difference is that is a couple of hundred square miles. There are single abandoned factories (abandoned in the 1940s!) that are as big as Camden. Many are also very toxic superfund type sites. The Detroit train station is as large as Grand Central Station and is abandoned. I believe Tiger Stadium is now abandoned. (There is a flashy new one in the section of the city that has been revitalized).


46 posted on 12/29/2004 7:43:19 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: independentmind

I was supposed to be born at Cooper but the Dr. was convinced my mother couldn't survive the experience so they were pushing to crush my cranium ( I weighed in at over 12 lbs), my grandfather literaly carried my mother out of the hospital room and drove her to Lourdes...where I was born without a crushed skull or a deceased mother. Thank God he was there. My dad was a 20 year old truck driver on the road, my mother was unconscious and her sister was giving them the go-ahead to kill me when grandpop got there. He's one feisty little Cajun Catholic and 'der wasn't gonna be no baby killing dat day!' This story has become almost a family legend but my mother swore to it's veracity while she was alive.


72 posted on 12/29/2004 9:51:41 AM PST by pgkdan
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