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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO JANUARY 2005 Dailies: News Digest, Restating the Obvious & Thank Yous...
Free Republic & Various Sources ^ | December 30, 2004 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 12/29/2004 7:16:22 AM PST by floriduh voter

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To: pc93; Chocolate Rose

I have looked high and low for this oldie but goodie you posted on April 26th, 04'.

Bookmark!!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120621/posts?page=261#261


2,141 posted on 01/31/2005 7:35:12 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: floriduh voter

LISTEN TONIGHT AT 10:00 PM EST. streaming radio:
http://www.rollye.net/listen.html (RE: TERRI)



I can't get it to work. Quick Time opens, then I get "404 Not Found."


2,142 posted on 01/31/2005 7:46:45 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

If all else fails, read the instructions.

It's my firewall.


2,143 posted on 01/31/2005 7:49:19 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Same here. We have two computers , tried getting it to work on both , failed :(


2,144 posted on 01/31/2005 8:06:52 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose

I could disconnect my firewall, but that would be foolish.


2,145 posted on 01/31/2005 8:07:58 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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No firewall here


2,146 posted on 01/31/2005 8:08:07 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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I being told now one computer has a firewall.


2,147 posted on 01/31/2005 8:10:17 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose; BykrBayb

I am pretty upset that I can't listen to the Rollye James Show. I can't get streaming audio...only Windows Media Player that is built into my webtv software allows me to listen. I listened to Bobby Schindler on Barbara Simpson's radio show on KSA in San Francisco Saturday night. Piece of cake. But not this. Rats. I had planned to ask one of you what went on, but now I see you have your own problems.


2,148 posted on 01/31/2005 8:22:52 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette

We had some friends to come over to listen. One couple drove 15miles (one way) just to come listen. :(


2,149 posted on 01/31/2005 8:40:05 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose

OHHHHH NOOOOO!!!!!

(Can Scoop1 or somebody fill us in after the interview is over, I wonder?)


2,150 posted on 01/31/2005 8:44:11 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: pc93

It's been such the show trial from the beginning.

God forgive me for my lack of hope. I wish I had your steadfastness.


2,151 posted on 01/31/2005 8:46:23 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Scoop 1; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; ...

Terri ping to 2135! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


2,152 posted on 01/31/2005 9:12:24 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter
Thanks for all your work. From now on I'll keep a post it with Terri written on it right by my rosary beeds -- it will remind me to pray for her.

God bless you.
2,153 posted on 01/31/2005 9:50:18 PM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: All; txrangerette; floriduh voter; Chocolate Rose; BykrBayb

I believe you can call Rollye tomorrow, or another weekday, 10pm - 1am, if you want to talk about Terri, even if you don't hear the show. Rollye's number is 888-876-5593. I called Rollye one time about something out of the blue, and she took my call.

I heard Rolleye's interview with Bob Schindler, Terri's dad, maybe 6 mos. ago or so, and Bob Schindler said that Terri could talk some with experimental brain surgery, but Michael Schiavo stopped the therapy.

I also heard, last week, Rolleye's interview with Michael Schiavo's brother, and he claimed the experimental brain surgery DID NOT WORK.

CONFLICTING STORIES.

SOMEBODY is not telling the truth, and I think I know who that is.


2,154 posted on 01/31/2005 10:45:19 PM PST by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Scoop 1

Post #2135 bump! GREAT article!


2,155 posted on 01/31/2005 11:33:28 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks for the ping!


2,156 posted on 01/31/2005 11:35:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: txrangerette

Don't know if this has been covered so far - so many posts!
You mentioned Barbara Simpson - so happens she has an
article in todays WorldNetDaily. Sure in line with all
that's happening:


Barbara Simpson, "The Babe in the Bunker" as she's known to her KSFO 560 radio talk-show audience in San Francisco, has a 20-year radio, television and newspaper career in the Bay Area and Los Angeles.



Where's the bottom of the slippery slope?



Posted: January 31, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


What a world! At one-and-the-same time, we argue issues of life and death under euphemisms of pro-choice, pro-life, the right to choose, the right to die.

First, we have the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the legalization of what has come to be abortion on demand at virtually any time during the nine months of pregnancy. It ranges from days-old fetuses to fully developed, near-term babies.


We still argue about it, but it has diminished the value of human life and was a kick down the slippery slope.

Can there be any doubt when I can look at today's newspaper and see another report of a dead baby being found? It was a girl, nearly full term, wrapped in a blanket and, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, "propped on the stump of a tree."

Then with another kick down that slope, on one side of the country, Florida courts are embroiled in the issue of dying. Who decides who dies, when and how?

The case there is that of Terri Schiavo, who as I write, is still the center of a legal battle between the man she married, who wants her feeding tube pulled so she will die, and her parents, who want the husband to drop the case and/or divorce Terri so they can care for her for the rest of her life. He refuses.

The husband, Michael Schiavo, has had a live-in girlfriend for years by whom he has two children. In that light, he's hardly the grieving, heartbroken husband.

And indulge me please, this alert to ALL news organizations, including the networks: Stop describing Terri as being in an irreversible coma or a vegetative state. She is not. She is brain damaged and cannot speak or swallow, but she sleeps and wakes and is responsive to people and her surroundings.

Disabled people beware: The result of this horrific case will definitely affect your fate. It will set a precedent that will certainly end the lives of many helpless people who are deemed by lawyers, courts and others to have lives not worthy of living.

Who decides? Guess.

On the other side of the country, California is faced with dying dilemmas of its own, which ultimately center around the issues of living and dying and, as before, – who, when and how.

Southern California last week experienced a major train wreck – the worst in 50 years. Two commuter trains were involved. Eleven people were killed in the incident in Glendale, a suburb of Los Angeles, and nearly 200 people were injured. As I write, they're still digging through wreckage for other victims.

The man responsible is 25-year-old Juan Manuel Alvarez – he's in custody for medical evaluation and will be arraigned in February. It's expected he'll be charged with 11 counts of murder with special circumstances. He could face the death penalty.

In the event you're wondering, as am I – in all the news coverage, there is no mention of Alvarez' immigration status or whether he had a drivers license.

The news says Alvarez was trying to commit suicide, parked his Jeep Cherokee on the tracks, but at the last minute changed his mind. He got out in time, left the vehicle and derailed two trains. The state's Public Utilities Commission says California leads the country in train suicides – 120 in the last four years.

Too bad Alvarez wasn't in San Francisco ... he could have used the Golden Gate Bridge, and jumped.

I know! Los Angeles needs a new bridge – it would make it easier for those suicidally inclined and at least only one person would die – the one who wanted to.

Speaking of the Golden Gate Bridge and suicide, the City by the Bay is all in a snit over a film made by Eric Steel. He got permission to film the bridge, but it wasn't the structure he actually wanted pictures of – he filmed attempted and accomplished suicides from it.

From the uproar about it, you'd think he was pushing people off.

It's ignited a renewed battle for suicide barriers on the bridge, something that's been opposed before because it would ruin the esthetics. There are cameras, police patrols and phones, which, we're told, stopped 50 jumpers last year.

Near the bridge is San Quentin Prison where death-row prisoners are housed as well as lifers. Many are old, infirmed and some, reportedly, in comas. Talk is surfacing about the "problem" and, of course, the cost.

Not word, yet, on a final solution.

While all this goes on, two Democrat Assembly members, Patty Berg and Lloyd Levine introduced a bill in Sacramento, which, if passed, would legalize doctor-assisted suicide in California.

In real language, it means doctors would help people kill themselves or just kill people directly.

We are losing the distinction between allowing people to die and killing them, and we're doing it under the guise of "choice."

The pope has just issued another statement affirming the value of life at any stage and he steadfastly opposes euthanasia.

Whooooo! The wind blowing down that slippery slope is strong! Have we hit bottom yet?





2,157 posted on 02/01/2005 12:52:58 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: floriduh voter
About an investigation - does anyone know how to get through to Bill O'Reilly or the lady judge Lise(?) on his show?

People have been calling in about radical professors and judges and he has his screener get data from the caller so that they can investigate.

Any ideas?

2,158 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:56 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover

I would not trust Bill O'Reilly on this one, even if you could get through to him. He savaged the Swift Boat Vets and he protected Dan Rather. You never know where he will come down on an issue.

Yes, he might choose to investigate Terri's injuries, Judge Greer, the Euthanasia movement, Hospice, etc. OR he could decide to focus on poor Michael and his "heroic" quest to put his "wife" out of her misery, and how Jeb Bush "unconstitutionally" stopped him.

As far as I know, Hannity and Greta have expressed sympathy for Terri and her family, and I would stick with people like them.


2,159 posted on 02/01/2005 2:44:52 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: All; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; txrangerette; Chocolate Rose; BykrBayb; windchime; ...

Note: Ken Connor represented Gov. Jeb Bush in Bush vs. Schiavo.

Terri Schiavo was denied due process

Ken Connor
attorney Tampa

February 1, 2005

In your Jan. 27 editorial, "Court right to decline," you take issue with the statement I made in connection with the Bush v. Schiavo case: "The reality is that in Florida convicted felons receive more due-process protections than Terri Schiavo has received in this case."

While the statement I made may be a sad reflection on the state of jurisprudence in Florida, it is most assuredly true. If Michael Schiavo has his way, Terry Schiavo will die by starvation and dehydration pursuant to a court order authorizing her death.

Accused capital felons in Florida are entitled to independent counsel; competent representation; a jury trial; and upon conviction, an automatic review of their death penalty by the Florida Supreme Court.

Terri Schiavo has never received any of these protections. She has not had the benefit of independent counsel and, indeed, when the decision authorizing her starvation was made, she didn't even have the benefit of a guardian ad litem. Terri never received the benefit of a jury trial, and the Supreme Court refused to review the order authorizing the withdrawal of nutrition and hydration.

Like it or not, convicted murderers Ted Bundy and Danny Rolling received more due-process protections than Terri Schiavo, a person utterly innocent of any wrong-doing. And if Bundy or Rolling had been sentenced to death by starvation and dehydration, their sentences would most assuredly have been set aside as violative of the Constitution's prohibitions against cruel and unusual punishment.

Terri Schiavo is, admittedly, profoundly handicapped. However, she is still a person entitled to be treated with human dignity and worthy of the full protection of the law. The sad reality, however, is that the Florida courts, in refusing to accord greater due-process protection to Terri Schiavo, have treated her as less than a whole person.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/letters/sfl-brmail888feb01,0,1718071.story?coll=sfla-news-letters


2,160 posted on 02/01/2005 4:13:03 AM PST by amdgmary
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