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Dukes movie Confederate flag caused conundrum
daily-report.com ^ | 12-30-04 | Tom Guarisco)

Posted on 12/30/2004 11:00:21 AM PST by Ellesu

The cast member on the Dukes of Hazard movie that had the filmmakers scratching their heads has not been publicity-drenched Jessica Simpson or her rabble-rousing smart-ass co-star, Johnny Knoxville.

It's the General Lee, the bright orange 1969 Dodge Charger central to all Duke boys escapades. More specifically, it's the Confederate Flag emblazoned on the General's roof, a symbol that has become quite the object of controversy since the original TV series' seven-season run starting in 1979.

The filmmakers didn't want to alienate modern audiences, the Wall Street Journal reported recently in a story headlined "Flag wavering." Nor did the moviemakers want to anger long-time fans by tinkering with the Warner Bros show. "So they struck a compromise with the studio."

Quoting a source involved with making the film, the Journal says the film includes scenes where the flag is "derided as an inappropriate symbol of the dark past."

For example, Bo and Luke ask a group of African-American college students for directions. "Is this a joke? Some kind of reality show?" one of them asks. Bo, the dimmer of the Dukes, explains the flag is cool and that their friend Cooter, a Civil War buff, painted it when he fixed the car. But Luke understands, and explains to Bo that some people find the flag offensive and a "symbol of slavery." That Luke, he always was perty' smart.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: confederacy; confederate; confederateflag; culturewars; diversity; dixie; dukesofhazzard; generallee; hollywoodleft; pc; politicalcorrectness; tolerance
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To: ArrogantBustard
LOL. I could NOT that that one pass after that picture.

Now where's Foghorn Leghorn's buddy the dog? :)

141 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:12 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The Union had numerical advantages, but that was negated by the need to subdue a huge land with significant armies of its own.

100% Correct.

The Confederacy only had to avoid losing and keep up the fight. They gave up the fight. If the lost cause had been so noble to begin with, it would have never become a lost cause.

I agree

When large confederate areas were regained by the Union, many confederate soldiers lost their heart for the fight. They were fighting for their homes, not for the plantation owners' beloved peculiar institution and not for any cause that needs revival today.

I agree with stipulation. Many, maybe most, did not fight for slavery per se, but the agitators who started the war, the "Apostles of Disunion" as Gallagher calls them in his book titled the same, the politicians, rich, plantation owners, and related diplomats and elected officials DID start the war because of slavery and even the average soldier WAS worried about how emancipation would effect his lifestyle.

In other words, I will concede that your average Johnny-Reb cared little about slavery per se, and fought for home and heart, but that he had a vested interest in seeing the social order stay the same AND, more importantly, the CAUSE from the level where it mattered, ie; the political level which advocated and forced session, WAS slavery.

142 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:31 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
and not for any cause that needs revival today.

Oops...forgot that part.

100% agree.

143 posted on 12/30/2004 12:38:07 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: hattend
Nice try, but no. Here's the original ... beautiful, but looks like she can handle herself (if the menfolks aren't around to 'protect' her):

Disney manufactured pop-tarts need not apply.

144 posted on 12/30/2004 12:38:27 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dmz
Isnt that banjo player Bela Fleck?

No. It is not.

145 posted on 12/30/2004 12:39:49 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: TXnMA

Yes! Stick it where the sun don't shine!


146 posted on 12/30/2004 12:40:17 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: todd1

Kwanzaa has a flag?


147 posted on 12/30/2004 12:40:31 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I guess that means you recognised the picture?

I lived for several years on one of the former Northwest Territory states, so I know y'all ain't really a bunch of poofs ...

148 posted on 12/30/2004 12:41:08 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Schwaeky

NO! The Wilson Brothers!


149 posted on 12/30/2004 12:41:30 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Ellesu

I wonder if anyone remembers this...

When the Dukes of Hazzard premiered, the networks were still volutarily complying with Jimmy Carter's "Family Hour" between 8 and 9. Apparently it was PC to put Daisy on in the skimpiest costume possible at that hour...the only stipulation was, there could be NO GUNS!

Being an inventive sort, the producers of Dukes of Hazzard cooked-up a story line where the boys were paroled from prison on two conditions...Uncle Jesse would promise to give up the moonshine biz, and they would not own any guns.

As a substitue though, the Dukes were allowed to strap sticks of dynamite to arrows, light them and fire them into the bad guys with a crossbow. More than one way to skin a peanut farmer I guess.


150 posted on 12/30/2004 12:42:19 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ellesu
"... And all you fans are racist pigs!"

TS
Well, they might as well have said that.

151 posted on 12/30/2004 12:42:26 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Sorry, I'm off from school for the week, so I'm in a silly mood.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"Disney manufactured pop-tarts need not apply"

Great picture. Catherine Bach was at her best when she used those spike heels for kicking.


152 posted on 12/30/2004 12:43:09 PM PST by nj26
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To: Smogger

My parents are Indian (I always disliked that Indo-American label... but I digress), but I loved the Dukes of Hazzard. I've got a model of the General Lee a friend gave me for my birthday. I haven't built it yet. But man, that show was fun.

Funny thing is that most people don't get offended by it unless they are told to. Most of my friends just thought it was stupid and moved on.


153 posted on 12/30/2004 12:46:52 PM PST by JayB
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To: Ellesu
If this story is factual they might as well release the video now and avoid the embarrassment of having it bomb in the theaters... sounds like a "Redneck Alexander".
154 posted on 12/30/2004 12:47:18 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: Ellesu

Because of this story I am not going to watch the movie. But I am keeping my Dukes of Hazard lunch box. The PC crowd can kiss my @$$!


155 posted on 12/30/2004 12:49:25 PM PST by alienken (Bumper sticker idea- We have God in heaven & a Texan in the whitehouse,LIFE IS GOOD!!)
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To: Old Professer
I'm a Damn Yankee and as far as I am concerned the CSA gave up too early.

Agree! And while this thread probably wasn't intended as a discussion of the rights and wrongs of the Civil War there are those who feel very strongly about being robbed of the right to fly that flag. The idea that it offends the PC and the way it is presented as a flag of hatred and bigotry is offensive to me.

156 posted on 12/30/2004 12:52:11 PM PST by TXLady
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To: Darth Reagan

Nice try Darth. We know you are planning on downloading it and viewing it over and over again.


157 posted on 12/30/2004 12:52:58 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: FreedomCalls

not that far off.


158 posted on 12/30/2004 12:54:20 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: TXLady
there are those who feel very strongly about being robbed of the right to fly that flag. The idea that it offends the PC and the way it is presented as a flag of hatred and bigotry is offensive to me.

It is a flag of hatred and bigotry (as well as treason and a flag flown against my Country, the USA) as I and many see it. To me, it is highly offensive.

However, I have no right to NOT be offended.

I feel very strongly about your rights, and other's rights, to fly it, wear, it, draw it, whatever. You should have that right. Absolutely. 100%. A PERSONAL right. Anywhere you want. I would fight any attempts to limit that PERSONAL right.

159 posted on 12/30/2004 1:05:41 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: stands2reason

Please tell me you didn't think I was serious.

I prefer his acoustic planet stuff to the flecktones, but that's just me.


160 posted on 12/30/2004 1:14:22 PM PST by dmz
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