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U.S. Should Not Help Tsunami Victims
Ayn Rand Institute ^ | Dec. 30, 2004 | David Holcberg

Posted on 12/30/2004 1:17:50 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Our money is not the government's to give.

As the death toll mounts in the areas hit by Sunday's tsunami in southern Asia, private organizations and individuals are scrambling to send out money and goods to help the victims. Such help may be entirely proper, especially considering that most of those affected by this tragedy are suffering through no fault of their own.

The United States government, however, should not give any money to help the tsunami victims. Why? Because the money is not the government's to give.

Every cent the government spends comes from taxation. Every dollar the government hands out as foreign aid has to be extorted from an American taxpayer first. Year after year, for decades, the government has forced American taxpayers to provide foreign aid to every type of natural or man-made disaster on the face of the earth: from the Marshall Plan to reconstruct a war-ravaged Europe to the $15 billion recently promised to fight AIDS in Africa to the countless amounts spent to help the victims of earthquakes, fires and floods--from South America to Asia. Even the enemies of the United States were given money extorted from American taxpayers: from the billions given away by Clinton to help the starving North Koreans to the billions given away by Bush to help the blood-thirsty Palestinians under Arafat's murderous regime.

The question no one asks about our politicians' "generosity" towards the world's needy is: By what right? By what right do they take our hard-earned money and give it away?

The reason politicians can get away with doling out money that they have no right to and that does not belong to them is that they have the morality of altruism on their side. According to altruism--the morality that most Americans accept and that politicians exploit for all it's worth--those who have more have the moral obligation to help those who have less. This is why Americans--the wealthiest people on earth--are expected to sacrifice (voluntarily or by force) the wealth they have earned to provide for the needs of those who did not earn it. It is Americans' acceptance of altruism that renders them morally impotent to protest against the confiscation and distribution of their wealth. It is past time to question--and to reject--such a vicious morality that demands that we sacrifice our values instead of holding on to them.

Next time a politician gives away money taken from you to show what a good, compassionate altruist he is, ask yourself: By what right?

David Holcberg is a research associate at the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charity; tsunami
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To: Abcdefg

You just used the "Nazi" accusation and therefore lose the argument!

If that hit too close to home tough S***. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. But I see that you know who you are


281 posted on 12/30/2004 7:07:54 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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To: Beckwith
will now take her $500 to Vietnam and hand out rice and clothing as she does each year.

Do you mean to say there is nothing or no one in this country that can't be helped with her $500, plus the travel costs associated with such largess?

I don't usually comment on peoples home page but since you have been know to use the comments on others homepage negatively, I will say that your's is very appropriate:

"Grumpy old man"

282 posted on 12/30/2004 7:12:00 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Figment

You see nothing. You lost the argument because you resorted to name-calling. Lame.


283 posted on 12/30/2004 7:20:24 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: bruinbirdman

That's why we have charities.


284 posted on 12/30/2004 7:21:03 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas
You are why many people think of conservatives as cold-hearted bastards.

Because of reason, logic and Constitutional principles?

We are all sorry for these people. Those that want to give to charity should.

But, the government should NOT send taxpayer money for charity, especially when we can't even afford to produce the F-22!!!

I pity you that your tear jerking gets in the way of sound reason and Constitutional principles.

Americans will give plenty themselves. Let me repeat this for you: the Pentagon has announced that we can't afford the F-22!! How can America give U.S. Treasury money to charity if we can't afford the F-22?

285 posted on 12/30/2004 7:24:09 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: bruinbirdman
What is the NAME of this TSUMANI??
Shouldn't there be a name attached to it??

286 posted on 12/30/2004 7:24:13 PM PST by benice
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To: Figment
Who in the world gave you the misguided impression that it is "your" money?

The actual paper belongs to the Federal Reserve. The value associated with that piece of paper belongs to those who rightfully earn and hold it. You are splitting hairs here - it's our money not the government's.

Do you support a 100% tax rate since it's not your money anyway?

287 posted on 12/30/2004 7:27:02 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: commonguymd

You are a Marxist. Your comment about forced U.S. giving to charity proves it.

You are also anti-American. We are canceling the F-22 because we can't afford it, but our government sends charity to flooded terrorist nations.

You are also dense since you want me to explain what should be obvious to you when you look in the mirror.


288 posted on 12/30/2004 7:27:53 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Your name calling has no basis in fact. Quite childish.


289 posted on 12/30/2004 7:31:02 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: Figment
Meanwhile the money we've pledged to the tsunami relief wouldn't buy ONE F/22.

Our total annual giving to charity is over $1.1 trillion per year. I look at the sum total.

If America pledged just $136,000 like France, that would still be too much.

A nickel is too much. Charity should be a private matter by each citizen, not the government forcing us to pay it through our tax dollars.

And don't give me this "enough already witht the F-22." Every American needs to decide what is more important--their tax dollars to defend America, or their tax dollars to send to terrorist nations.

290 posted on 12/30/2004 7:32:15 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

That is the spirit. Individual responsibility. Accepted and acted upon.


291 posted on 12/30/2004 7:34:15 PM PST by ImpBill (Twas a very good election for the Republic!)
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To: Figment
Your reply says it all--Constitutional principles mean nothing to you. Freedom means I decide how much I give to charity, but you feel the government can take from us whatever they want to give to foreign charities.

That is shameful.

292 posted on 12/30/2004 7:34:41 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Abcdefg

You see nothing. You lost the argument because you resorted to name-calling. Lame

Who did I call a nazi? I didn't even say anything disparaging about the two groups I mentioned. If you're a member of one or both , take it however you want. I don't care, you are irrelevant .


293 posted on 12/30/2004 7:37:05 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Curious where your 1.1 trillion came from. I see something more in the 242 billion range.

http://www.usaid.gov/fani/ch06/usassistance.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/24/national/main560206.shtml


294 posted on 12/30/2004 7:40:18 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: WhiteGuy
"Couldn't agree more. Any aid from America should come from private donations only."

Feds use 50% of foreign aid tax dollars for administrative purposes.

UN takes 99% of fed tax dollar contribution aid for corrupt purposes.

no yitbos

295 posted on 12/30/2004 7:42:33 PM PST by bruinbirdman (Those who control language control minds)
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To: commonguymd
Curious where your 1.1 trillion came from. I see something more in the 242 billion range

I did not look at your links yet, but 242 billion sounds like the amount Americans give (not the government) to private charities.

The source of the $1.1 trillion in 2004 to charity is the U.S. budget, Section 3, Superfunction "Human Resources". This $1.1 trillion to charity of taxpayer dollars is about 66 cents of every dollar in the U.S. budget.

This is only domestic charity so does NOT include aid to foreign nations through the State Department budget or other forms of foreign aid.

296 posted on 12/30/2004 7:46:09 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I looked up Marxism in the encyclopedia for a refresher and found this tidbit that you might find interesting. Name calling aside:

Since Marx's death in 1883, various groups around the world have appealed to Marxism as the intellectual basis for their politics and policies, which can be dramatically different and conflicting. One of the first major splits occurred between the advocates of social democracy, who argued that the transition to socialism could occur within a democratic framework, and communists, who argued that the transition to a socialist society required a revolution. Social democracy resulted in the formation of the British Labour Party and the Social Democratic Party of Germany, while communism resulted in the formation of various communist parties.

You may be on to something by fighting this aid so vehemently in the realm of slippery slopes. Not sure if this action has the right timing, because of the emotional impacts.
297 posted on 12/30/2004 7:51:11 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: bruinbirdman

I agree with the tenor of this post even as I seek a charity I can donate to that will not use my money for bureaucratic global aspirations or petty larceny. Any suggestions, fellow freepers?


298 posted on 12/30/2004 7:53:43 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Foreign aid is listed as 47 billion from the US government in, albeit several years old . 242 Billion is private donations to charity.
299 posted on 12/30/2004 7:58:12 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: 2nd Amendment

The Salvation Army has always been my favorite charity.


300 posted on 12/30/2004 8:10:24 PM PST by commonguymd
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