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1 posted on 01/01/2005 10:59:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Could it be that the writer wants higher taxes, but can't bring himself to use the words?


2 posted on 01/01/2005 11:06:29 AM PST by Voltage
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Nice bit of handwringing with no concrete suggestions. "Somebody has to do something!" isn't much of a plan. I'm hoping San Diego goes bankrupt so that all the existing labor contracts can be torn up and something more reasonable put in place. It also wouldn't hurt to privatize everything that possibly can be. One of the reasons the city is going broke is the unbelievable pension benefits public employees have been handed in recent years, and the fewer of them we have the better.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by John Jorsett
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The base of California's problems isn't money but way too many Liberal Democrats in Sacramento. Next election the problem can be remedied.That is if the Californians decide to wake up.
7 posted on 01/01/2005 11:40:58 AM PST by fish hawk
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Putting off certain health care needs, for instance, only increases the cost to all of us tomorrow. Not educating our children to their fullest potential reduces their future contributions and creates labor shortages.

So, I guess the solution is to encourage more poor, sick people to enter the state so that suckers who pay the taxes can pay to get them well and get them educated?

8 posted on 01/01/2005 11:49:12 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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California is a living socialist experiment in that we are paying benefits for all who contribute very little. We have been acutely feeling the effects in the last five years as the balance is shifting from having enough contributors to offset the negative cash flows to subsidized health care, education, and the increase in prisoners in the California penal system; and it will grow worse each budget year.

The children of illegals are having children at a young age, and are not able to financially sustain them. Medi-Cal is picking up part of the tab, forcing hospitals to write-off massive financial losses, only offset by the number of patients with employer provided insurance. Employer paid insurance continues to grow in cost by 10-20% annually. Most employers have begun cost shifting their health insurance expense to their employees, and or restricting the types of coverage, effectively making their employees pay out of pocket.

Ironically, those who immigrated hear to work cheaply are being displaced those who arrived more recently, and are willing to work more cheaply. These cheap workers, particularly in the construction field, are displacing legal, tax paying residents, because they are paid under the table;no social security tax, no state income tax, and no workers comp insurance. These illegal workers get injured and show up in a hospital emergency room, where by law, they must be treated regardless of ability to pay, and again the healthcare expense shifts to the taxpayer.

Now think about this. With the dramatic increase in residents in California, particularly in So Cal, there is really no increase in infrastructure spending (Water, sewage, transportation, education) with much money being diverted away from the general fund to pay these other social expenses.

It comes down to this. California will quickly become a third world state with a shrinking number of haves paying increasingly more for the have-nots, with the socialist legislature forcing more of the haves out of the state by punitive taxes and fees. California has one last chance, and it requires:
1. Educating residents of the peril they face if things remain status quo.
2. Voting out our the Socialists in the Legislature
3. Creating a very noisy, public, and nasty battle against Washington DC to force their responsibility in protecting the border and changing immigration law to keep the country's resources for the legal citizens of the country.
4. Forcing the GOP to reduce the number of kangaroo judges on the 9th circuit court of appeals (something under consideration now)
5. Stirring up the populist sentiment that is deep seated in California and passing another proposition 187 like ballot initiative, like Arizona recently passed, restricting benefits to legal citizens.
9 posted on 01/01/2005 12:17:46 PM PST by LA Conservative (Peace Kills)
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This reminds me of a group that attends our County Behavioral Health Services meetings. They demand that the County BHS provide them with services. We provide emergency services to anyone, but require Medi-Cal eligibility for long term clinical services. (The exception is substance abuse treatment which is under a separately funded program.)

The group states that the only psychiatrist in the County is the one employed by the County. Therefore, we should open services to all. They say that the County is responsible for making sure services are available. This is the entitlement mindset. I told them that I would be more than happy to work on a committee to attract a private psychiatrist, but the government is not responsible for providing everyone with health services. We have no desire to compete with the private sector.

(By the way, our BHS continues to run in the red serving those it currently serves and drains our General Fund.) I'm sure the lefists would jump right on board in agreement with the argument that government must be responsible for ensuring that services are provided.


11 posted on 01/01/2005 12:54:45 PM PST by marsh2
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I think we all know what California's major problem is

Illegal Immigrants, and the complete lack of a will to do anything about it...


12 posted on 01/01/2005 1:39:24 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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