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Proposed I-69 truly mammoth (TEXAS)
The Associated Press ^ | an. 01, 2005 | Jim Vertuno

Posted on 01/01/2005 7:08:48 PM PST by Dubya

AUSTIN - In what sounds like another tall tale told by a Texan, the Lone Star State has embarked on an audacious project to build superhighways so big, so complex, that they will make ordinary interstates look like cow paths. The Trans-Texas Corridor project, as envisioned by Republican Gov. Rick Perry in 2002, would be a 4,000-mile transportation network costing $175 billion over 50 years, financed mostly if not entirely with private money. The builders would charge motorists tolls.

But these would not be mere highways. They would be megahighways -- corridors up to a quarter-mile across, consisting of as many as six lanes for cars and four for trucks, plus railroad tracks, oil and gas pipelines, water and other utility lines, even broadband transmission cables.

Supporters say the corridors are needed to handle the expected NAFTA-driven boom in the flow of goods to and from Mexico and to enable freight haulers to bypass urban centers on straight-shot highways that cut across the countryside.

The number of corridors and exactly where they would run have yet to be worked out for the proposed I-69. But the Texas Transportation Commission opened negotiations Dec. 16 with the Spain-based consortium Cintra to start the first phase of the project, a $7.5 billion, 800-mile corridor that would stretch from Oklahoma to Mexico and run parallel to Interstate 35.

"Some thought the Trans-Texas Corridor was a pie-in-the-sky idea that would never see the light of day," said Perry, who has compared his plan to the interstate highway system, which was started during the Eisenhower administration.

But as the plan rumbles along in the fast lane, some have called it a Texas-size boondoggle. Environmentalists are worried about what it will do to the countryside. Ranchers and farmers who stand to lose their land through eminent domain are mobilizing against it. Small towns and big cities fear a loss of business when traffic is diverted around them.

Even the governor's own party opposes the plan. The GOP platform drafted at last summer's state convention rejected it because of its effect on property rights.

Perry is undeterred. "I think it will be a model for future infrastructure construction in the world," he predicted.

The tolls would represent a dramatic departure for Texas, which has traditionally relied on federal highway funding from gasoline taxes to build roads. But supporters say the combination of tolls and private money would allow Texas to pour concrete at a rate that would not be possible through gasoline taxes alone. ONLINE: ww.dot.state.tx.us www.keeptexasmoving.com www.corridorwatch.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; cintra; corridorwatch; ftaa; i69; immigration; landgrab; mexico; nafta; oas; pavetexas; perry; perry4sale; texas; tolls; trade; transportation; transtexascorridor; ttc; ttc35; utopianscheme
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Even the governor's own party opposes the plan. The GOP platform drafted at last summer's state convention rejected it because of its effect on property rights.

Perry is undeterred. "I think it will be a model for future infrastructure construction in the world," he predicted.

1 posted on 01/01/2005 7:08:48 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Dubya

Environmentalists are worried about what it will do to the countryside.

Fancy that. Environmentalists are against anything that starts with the big P, Progress. What they really consider as progress is a super highway back to the Dark Ages.


2 posted on 01/01/2005 7:13:56 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Dubya

the NAFTA import boom, shifted to ports in California where the chinese stuff come in.


3 posted on 01/01/2005 7:14:12 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dubya
Perry is a mammoth failure. The Texas borders are like sieves and this guy wants to raise taxes to educate illegal aliens. He will soon be gone from the political scene and good riddance
4 posted on 01/01/2005 7:15:14 PM PST by zipcode101
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To: zipcode101

He will soon be gone from the political scene and good riddance



Where is he going?..... Doesn't he still have a couple years on his current term?... Has he announced not to seek re-election?


5 posted on 01/01/2005 7:18:17 PM PST by deport
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To: zipcode101

in fact, the reality of this road project is probably that the state expects a massive population boom from immigration. that's what this is likely all about.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 7:19:09 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dubya

The title talks about I-69 but only one sentence in the entire article about it... I think the I-69 corridor is some 1600 miles from down in the valley to Port Huron, MI.


7 posted on 01/01/2005 7:21:48 PM PST by deport
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To: oceanview

Anyone who travels I-35 knows something has to be done. Its like rush hour all day long, even in the remote countryside.


8 posted on 01/01/2005 7:22:52 PM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: oceanview
Imports - partners:
Canada 17.4%, China 12.5%, Mexico 10.7%

We get more from China that Mexico but its not like there isn't a billion Chinese working for $.5 and the Mexicans are working for $2. When considering repegging their currency, the Chinese aren't worried that their products will become too expensive compared to the American products. Their competition right now is Mexico. Personally I'd rather help out NAFTA partners and democracies than ChiComs.
9 posted on 01/01/2005 7:25:49 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

"from China than Mexico"


10 posted on 01/01/2005 7:27:16 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Dubya
Lets put everything in one place, that way the terrorists will leave them alone.

uh huh

11 posted on 01/01/2005 7:27:32 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: oceanview

Perry needs to get the boot!

You ever tried to drive anywhere in the northwest? ROFL !

THE LAST THING WE NEED IN TEXAS IS FRICKIN TOLL ROADS !


12 posted on 01/01/2005 7:27:43 PM PST by Nyboe
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To: Dubya
Article Published: Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 2:15:39 AM EST [link]

Brattleboro Reformer

Texas seeks to build megahighways
By JIM VERTUNO
Associated Press

Thursday, December 30, 2004 - AUSTIN, Texas -- In what sounds like another tall tale told by a Texan, the Lone Star State has embarked on an audacious project to build superhighways so big, so complex, that they will make ordinary interstates look like cowpaths.

The Trans-Texas Corridor project, as envisioned by Republican Gov. Rick Perry in 2002, would be a 4,000-mile transportation network costing an awesome $175 billion over 50 years, financed mostly if not entirely with private money. The builders would then charge motorists tolls.

But these would not be mere highways. Proving anew that everything's big in Texas, they would be megahighways -- corridors up to a quarter-mile across, consisting of as many as six lanes for cars and four for trucks, plus railroad tracks, oil and gas pipelines, water and other utility lines, even broadband transmission cables.

Supporters say the corridors are needed to handle the expected NAFTA-driven boom in the flow of goods to and from Mexico and to enable freight haulers to bypass heavily populated urban centers on straight-shot highways that cut across the countryside.

The number of corridors and exactly where they would run have yet to be worked out. But the Texas Transportation Commission on Dec. 16 opened negotiations with the Spain-based consortium Cintra to start the first phase of the project, a $7.5 billion, 800-mile corridor that would stretch from Oklahoma to Mexico and run parallel to Interstate 35.

"Some thought the Trans-Texas Corridor was a pie-in-the-sky idea that would never see the light of day," said Perry, who has compared his plan to the interstate highway system started during the Eisenhower administration. "We have seen the future, and it's here today."

But as the plan rumbles along in the fast lane, some have called it a Texas-size boondoggle. Environmentalists are worried about what it will do to the countryside. Ranchers and farmers who stand to lose their land through eminent domain are mobilizing against it. Small towns and big cities alike fear a loss of business when traffic is diverted around them.

Even the governor's own party opposes the plan. The GOP platform drafted at last summer's state convention rejected it because of its effect on property rights. Perry is undeterred. "I think it will be a model for future infrastructure construction in the world," he predicted.

The tolls would represent a dramatic departure for Texas, which has traditionally relied on federal highway funding from gasoline taxes to build roads. But supporters say the combination of tolls and private money would allow Texas to pour concrete at a rate that would not be possible through gasoline taxes alone.

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13 posted on 01/01/2005 7:28:07 PM PST by AgThorn (You're my president, Dubya, but do something about immigration or I'm not voting Republican any more)
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To: Dubya

Sure. Confiscate private land to build a project that will primarily direct profit to a private company. How about "no"?


14 posted on 01/01/2005 7:28:28 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: Nyboe

opps i mean northeast


15 posted on 01/01/2005 7:28:41 PM PST by Nyboe
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To: Dubya
The tolls would represent a dramatic departure for Texas,

Texas has had toll roads for decades - so long that some of them have been paid off and converted to free roads.

16 posted on 01/01/2005 7:31:11 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Dubya

These guys should call 1-800-BIG-DIIG, c/o Boston, MA.


17 posted on 01/01/2005 7:34:19 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: oceanview
in fact, the reality of this road project is probably that the state expects a massive population boom from immigration. that's what this is likely all about.

You bet it is.

We just read an article about that, and it stated that the immigration flood into Texas will be giant in the future.

No more room left in places Southern California, unless they want to move to the deserts. As long as they continue to pour in, they've got to go somewhere.

Already, Texas has one of the fastest growing Mid Eastern populations in the country.

18 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:01 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: stinkerpot65

And that's just the portions that are three lanes.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:59 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: zipcode101
He will soon be gone from the political scene and good riddance

The Dems and Rinos are still sore about his having shoved through re-districting which significantly added to the number of Republican seats in the House of Representatives, and did away with some solid democrat districts.

zipcode101 Since Dec 30, 2004

Which are you? A KBH/CK-M-R-S type, or a Democrat?

20 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:48 PM PST by PAR35
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