So What Happened in That Election, Anyhow? (NYT rips Democrats!)

New York Times ^ | 1/2/05 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

[wagglebee]

Joe Manchin, the new governor of West Virginia, a Democrat whose anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-gun-control views lifted him to a double-digit victory even as Mr. Kerry lost his state by 13 points, said last week that he had little doubt about why Democrats lost the presidency and seats in the House and Senate.
"It's the values - my goodness, it's the values,"

Voters were averse to changing presidents in what was effectively a time of war - and Mr. Kerry, never a particularly likable candidate, never gave them a reason to do it.

I love it when the left starts eating their own!

[JudyinCanada]

Me too. I wonder if they taste like chicken.

[Felis_irritable]

"I don't subscribe to any of these notions that we have to examine our conscience as to who we are," Ms. Pelosi said. "We know who we are. We know what we stand for. We'll make it clearer in the non-presidential election year what the differences are between the Democrats and the Republicans."

Oh please Nancy, please make it clearer. Please make it clearer that you want to take my income and give it to people who won't work, and then pass laws to make me like them. Don't ever try to offer a constructive alternative that doesn't involve big government.

[martin_fierro]

"It's the values - my goodness, it's the values," he said, adding: "But to allow any other party to say that the Democrats aren't for family values, they are not for people who go to church, they are not for people who like to go hunting - that's wrong."

Yeah, right.

[jocon307]

"A gawky candidate with little to say?"

Not gawky, haughty, and he had plenty to say, in French!

[Cowboy Bob]

Joe Manchin, the new governor of West Virginia, a Democrat whose anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-gun-control views lifted him to a double-digit victory even as Mr. Kerry lost his state by 13 points, said last week that he had little doubt about why Democrats lost the presidency and seats in the House and Senate.

Why is this guy a Democrat?

[wildcatf4f3]

of course, it didn't help that they nominated a bona-fide traitor

[wagglebee]

I don't know much about him, but I presume he is an "old fashioned" traditional Democrat (like Zell Miller) whose party affiliation goes back to the days when the only way to possible win an election in a heavily blue-collar union state was to be a Democrat.

[Jenya]

I think that the Swiftboat Vets sank Kerry's campaign. I think down the road, that's how it will go down in history. That's what people will say was the defining moment for Kerry.

That, and the fact that he's an idiot and Bush is all that and a bag of chips.

[upchuck]

Senator Charles E. Schumer, the new head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, argued that the problem this year was broader than issues like terrorism or values, saying that Democrats never laid out a program of what they would do should they win the White House.

Sorry Chuck. But I gotta disagree with you. Everytime a program came up, sKerry said, "I've got a plan."

Remember?

[wagglebee]

IMHO, the only Democrat contenders who even had a chance with the independent moderates where Joe Lieberman and Dick Gephardt. The 'Rats viewed both of them as traitors because they actually believed in using force to protect Americans from terrorism.

[Republican Wildcat]

LOL!

[wagglebee]

Everytime a program came up, sKerry said, "I've got a plan."

Yeah, but the only "plan" that sKerry ever laid out was to be certain that we had the UN's permission before we defended ourselves.

[MJY1288]

The Democrats lost the Presidential election and more seats in the House and Senate because they have sold their soul to the extreme wing of their party. The influence of the far left has taken them away from the days of them being the party for the working man. The latest influx of anti-americanism that bubbling to the surface of their party will keep them in the minority for several decades.

When the average "Joe" in this country sees Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy Carter at the democrat convention, mainstream America says.... "Houston! We have a problem". I'm glad to hear Nancy Pelosi making every excuse imaginable to explain away their total defeat in the past three elections except the real reason for their defeat....... AMERICAN VALUES

Watching Howard Dean on Meet the Press a few weeks ago was a clear sign that they still don't get it. Howard Dean said that the democrats need to frame the debate in more acceptable terms for mainstream America. Howard Dean said they simply need to change the way they word things :-) GO HAWARD! :-)

[Jenya]

Yeah, but the only "plan" that sKerry ever laid out was to be certain that we had the UN's permission before we defended ourselves.

Yeah, who could forget his "Global Test". hahahahahahaahahahaha

[Nick Danger]

The article ends by retreating into an explanation of the Kerry loss... that "Mr. Kerry, never a particularly likable candidate, never gave them a reason to [replace Bush]."

But that's not the problem the Democrats have. They lost seats in both houses of Congress, too. They've been doing that quite a bit lately. If it happens again in 2006, the Republicans will likely have a filibuster-proof Senate, in addition to their already formidable majority in the House.

Fixing what went wrong with Kerry is only the beginning. The fact is, the Democrats as a party have run up against the limits of what they stand for. People already have all the Democratic Party policy they want; they don't want any more of it.

Women no longer like the feminists. Everybody is up-to-here with gays-in-your-face. The cynical anti-patriotism isn't amusing anymore. What used to be secular government has turned into hostility to religion, and contempt for religious faith.

A weak defense, a weaker intelligence capability, higher taxes, gay marriage, and more abortions... that's what most people think the Democrats stand for. And a majority does not want that. Until the Democrats figure that out, they will continue to sink into irrelevance.

[wagglebee]

I'm glad Howie the screecher has it all figured out, the 'Rats just need to learn how to lie better.

[gidget7]

shhhhhh they might hear you! LOL We might to well to keep them grappling for "why".

[wagglebee]

[LADY J]

"Ms. Pelosi said. "We know who we are. We know what we stand for. We'll make it clearer in the non-presidential election year what the differences are between the Democrats and the Republicans."

Americans have seen exactly who you are and what you stand for Ms Pelosi and they don't like it!!

Rats are in trouble because their base believes in things that are abhorrent to most Americans. If the Rats swing right - they lose their base.