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GOP admits small government no longer its driving force
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Posted on 01/02/2005 12:44:40 PM PST by freepatriot32

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To: Mr. K
"Who is this mythical person they talked to who represents the ENTIRE GOP?????????"

Ed Gillespie?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/979119/posts

41 posted on 01/02/2005 2:35:13 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: freepatriot32

Not breaking news, that much is certain.

Would you post a press release from the Democrats? This is a press release from the LP. Not newsworthy.


42 posted on 01/02/2005 2:36:52 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: freepatriot32

Not breaking news, that much is certain.

Would you post a press release from the Democrats? This is a press release from the LP. Not newsworthy.


43 posted on 01/02/2005 2:36:54 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Less government is better government.


45 posted on 01/02/2005 2:39:05 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

so true...you might be interested in this post from earlier: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312551/posts


46 posted on 01/02/2005 2:46:29 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

never mind: just realized my mistake.
going to bed early tonight : )


47 posted on 01/02/2005 2:48:19 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: freepatriot32

My recommendation is to give no more money to the Republican party. Give money to the Club For Growth.

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/why.php

"For 30 years economic conservatives and libertarians labored mightily to wrestle control of Congress away from a Democratic Party that has been mostly captured by the left at the national level. Most of us believed that electing a Republican Congress would bring about the kinds of major policy reforms—tax cuts, fundamental tax reform and simplification, school choice, less wasteful government, and so on—that are so critical to advancing prosperity.
We now know that was a naive hope.

Too many Congressional Republicans have veered away from the limited government agenda that got them elected to the majority in Congress. They enacted budget deals with Bill Clinton that betrayed our limited government beliefs. They have approved pork-barrel highway bills worse than what the Democrats used to give us. They have dropped the ball on making tax cuts permanent, tax reform, and personal investment of Social Security.

The lesson we should derive from this disappointing performance is this: until we as citizens convert one or both of the major political parties over to our pro-growth policy ideas, it is unlikely that we are going to be able to advance our agenda successfully in Congress.

The Club for Growth is designed to help our members better target their campaign contributions—to help elect candidates who are reliable on the issues that we care about.

Through our extensive research on incumbents in Congress and the field of challengers, the Club assists our members in identifying which candidates are worth giving contributions to—and which are not. We provide a "seal of approval" for our members so they can feel confident that when they make a campaign contribution they are helping elect candidates committed to the right set of ideas.

Today, there are at most some 50 members of the House and roughly 15 members of the Senate who are truly dedicated to prosperity and limited government. The goal of the Club for Growth is to double and even triple those numbers within the next ten years. Only by achieving that objective are we likely to achieve policy victories in the pro-growth agenda, such as tax cuts and other smaller government issues."


48 posted on 01/02/2005 2:53:45 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/terrorism.htm)
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To: ProudVet77

Ditto.


49 posted on 01/02/2005 3:01:57 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: freepatriot32

This is not so much admitting as much as acknowledging reality. One giant DUH moment for the GOP.


50 posted on 01/02/2005 3:10:37 PM PST by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: GeronL

I want an effective governnent, personally. Not big, not overpowering or intrusive, and not weak. The schema was for a strong, limited government which would achieve a balance between anarchy and despostism. Both parties seem to want to swing the balance out of kilter one way or the other, usually both, depending upon the need du jour.

*Note this is not to be interpretted as meaning I want "them" to be able to do "anything it takes" to make us secure - that is not how I define effective.


51 posted on 01/02/2005 3:15:31 PM PST by Apogee
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To: freepatriot32

Did the losertarians every get more than .00000025% of the vote for the grand ideas?


52 posted on 01/02/2005 3:24:39 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: freepatriot32

Contrary to some professed Republicans, I never felt that the federal govt. has to be super small to be considered conservative.

To the contrary, I feel what the govt. DOES with its money, and not the aggregate amount, to be the deciding factor.

For example, I think the federal govt should play a bigger part (than currently) in creating an interstate highway and roads program.

And I think we should have a bigger CIA/spy service, in addition to expanded Special Ops, Rangers, Green Berets, coverts.

I also am not opposed to well thought out NASA programs, including planned missions to Mars or perhaps some other planet.

The spending I consider to be liberal (Democratic to be more precise) is the wasteful social engineering grants, goofy research programs handed out to colleges, midnight basketball, certain Head Start and/or WIC/welfare handouts.

I also think the govt. should develop some type of means testing for its Social Security and/or Medicare programs, and should sharply curtail the checks to people claiming disibility, which in my experience, most of the time borders on outright fraud.

In other words, its not the SIZE of the govt., it's the power behind the assets. (My girlfriend says the same thing to me all the time. Hmmm. Wonder what she's talkin about)


53 posted on 01/02/2005 3:30:22 PM PST by Edit35
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To: freepatriot32
GOP admits small government no longer its driving force

Not sure I understand this title.

One lousy piss ant of a state legislator goes silly and that means "GOP admits small government no longer its driving force".

That's quite a leap!

54 posted on 01/02/2005 3:35:57 PM PST by evad (DUmmie FUnnies and Pookie Toons-the start of a nice day)
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To: MojoWire

The things you mention are the smaller slice of the fiscal pie. Entitlement spending is where the action is.
Ultimately the decisions made there are what determines the size of government and the collection of revenue.


55 posted on 01/02/2005 3:36:16 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (There are few problems in this world that cannot be solved from high ground with a belt fed weapon.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Entitlement spending is where the action is.

I agree wholeheartedly, and am not opposed in the least to raising the SS/Medicare retirement age to 70 (incrementally over the next 10-20 years, of course).

Our life spans have risen dramatically since SS/Medicare was enacted. (I will hit 65 soon and am more than willing to live by new more reasonable rules)

We have got to get away from this notion that the govt. owes us top notch living standards.

56 posted on 01/02/2005 4:13:35 PM PST by Edit35
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To: freepatriot32
GOP admits small government no longer its driving force.

Next up, GOP admits that is isn't at all interested in fiscal responsibility.

57 posted on 01/02/2005 4:17:05 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: politicalwit; jveritas
Soon you and your ilk will be the minority party along with the democrat party.

ROFLMAO! And who is going to be the dominate political party? The Libertarians? The Constitutional Party? Whatever party Pat Buchanan goes to next?

People in those parties will be in the minority along with the Democrats. Americans don't accept extreme political ideologies from either end of the spectrum.

59 posted on 01/02/2005 4:32:11 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145

keep you head buried up the rear end of the Republican party. Some of us realized that the republican party is nothing more than dem-lite.


60 posted on 01/02/2005 4:35:21 PM PST by politicalwit (Import poverty...hire an illegal today)
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