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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: Nataku X
I just plain don't like kids

Can we start a club?

221 posted on 01/03/2005 9:51:27 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Bella_Bru
Having children that you cannot afford is a sign of immaturity. Having children even though you despise screaming, snotty brats is a sign of immaturity.

Well, you can throw all kinds of caveates out there for having kids too.

Parenthood is more than being horny, which for most of the world is about all the thought that is given to it.

But the people I see in this article are not trailer park welfare queens. They are professional, productive people who may have in some instances made intelligent decisions.

But their decision not to have kids simply can not functionally be the model for as much of the population as it is being promoted for.

The normal state of couples is parenthood, and the reasons for not being parents have nothing to do with global warming or not having enough time for yourself. Those are stupid, selfish reasons and if that is all they can come up with they need to grow up.

Chances are if you can tolerate a spouse and a house, you can tolerate parenthood.

222 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:06 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: qam1

Adoption...I imagine as wars and natural disasters increase there are and will be many young children in need of decent homes...and loving parents....


223 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:16 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TommyDale

My father always said that Grandchildren were your reward for not killing your own.


224 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:40 AM PST by frgoff
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To: MikeWUSAF

People who wait to have children until they can afford it and can provide properly for them seldom have children.


225 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:41 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Raycpa
Hi Ray-

"...Childless folks went for Kerry, while parents went for Bush..."


That is an aburd, broad-brush assessment. So, for whom did the gun-owning, pro-military, fiscally-conservative, anti-terrorist, YET childless people vote?

~ Blue Jays ~

226 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Overtaxed

Understood.... it ain't easy, even with big families. Some who are alone thrive more in the more social environment of retirement and assisted living places, where there are people around. It isn't one-size fits all.


227 posted on 01/03/2005 9:53:01 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: hopespringseternal

It's not immature though to not want children. Not everyone has the desire to raise kids. Why is that so tough for you to understand?


228 posted on 01/03/2005 9:53:33 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Durus
Maybe for "the good of society" they should be forced to have children then.

I did not say that. I will say that a society that gives equal "status" (recognition - searching for the word) to non precreators as to mothers and fathers is exhibiting a tendency toward self destruction.

229 posted on 01/03/2005 9:54:26 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Bella_Bru
And as far as treating dogs like kids, plenty of families with kids do treat the dogs like other kids as well.

And, unfortunately, plenty of parents treat their kids like dogs.

My sister-in-law, for example, who, in a just world, would have her tubes tied, by force if necessary.

230 posted on 01/03/2005 9:54:30 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: bigeasy_70118

A child is being Fedex'ed to you immediately. Complete instruction manual included.


231 posted on 01/03/2005 9:54:37 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Bella_Bru

Actually, I made no judgments in any of my posts about others' choices, other than a joking reference to those who treat their dogs as their children.

I've mainly stated my viewpoint, which is that my children are my life, my most important accomplishment, and my legacy.

I wouldn't trade 'em for anything.


232 posted on 01/03/2005 9:54:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: ThanhPhero
People who wait to have children until they can afford it and can provide properly for them seldom have children.

Well, if they decide to have kids when they know they cannot afford them, then they had better not come looking to my wallet to pay for them.

233 posted on 01/03/2005 9:54:53 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Yeah, the homosexual conspiracy theorists are not raising the level of dialogue on FR. Unfortunately, there's enough of them to appear at least once on every thread.


234 posted on 01/03/2005 9:55:16 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: HairOfTheDog

If she didn't have medical issues, we could have done it. But at least we didn't dump and forget her.


235 posted on 01/03/2005 9:55:44 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: qam1

I have no problem with people who want to be childless. Honestly, there are some people who should just not have children. I only get mad at people who assume that all children are little monsters. In one restaurant years ago a lady saw my 8 month old son at our table and loudly complained about "not another baby". Except for a few giggles from him that had other customers smiling he was very well behaved.


236 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:04 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Slyfox
It is just sad when people are old and have no one to watch after them.

That can happen even when folks have children. My husband worked with and developed a friendship with a gentleman twenty years ago. He had two children. After his wife died, the man lived alone and soon could no longer care for himself. My husband cooked every meal he ate, cleaned his house, bought his groceries, literally, did everything for the man.

Eventually, hubby realized he needed full time care, so we placed him in an assisted living facility. His retirement monies paid for half of the expenses, we picked up the remainder. The last few months of his life were spent in a full care nursing home. He no longer recognized my husband and in a short time, died in the nursing home. We never saw his children once prior to his death - and they live in the same town. They did, however, manage to go by the nursing home immediately after the funeral and take the tv, wheelchair, and possessions we had purchased for their father.

237 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:42 AM PST by Quilla
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To: durasell
A child is being Fedex'ed to you immediately. Complete instruction manual included.

Note to self: Don't sign for any Fed Ex packages today. ;)

238 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:50 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: don-o
I will say that a society that gives equal "status" (recognition - searching for the word) to non precreators as to mothers and fathers is exhibiting a tendency toward self destruction.

I would say that any society that applies any legally meaningful "status" to a law-abiding adult other than "adult" has arguably already self-destructed.

239 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:54 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: HungarianGypsy

You are right, some people don't deserve to be parents.


240 posted on 01/03/2005 9:57:00 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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