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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: Slyfox
There are many old ladies living in FL and AZ who have no one to take care of them. There are many apartment managers who make regular trips to make sure their lone tenants are still alive,

Why don't these 'lone tenants' move in together and become each other's roommates, a la Golden Girls? They would have each other for company as well as being able to share expenses. That's what I would do if I were in that situation. Or has our society become so individualistic that our need for social contact must be damned?

321 posted on 01/03/2005 10:34:06 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Aquinasfan

Sadly, several years ago Anne Landers (or Dear Abby, I don't remember which) did a poll and asked that question: "If you had it to do all over again, would you have children?"

Majority said, no, they would not.


322 posted on 01/03/2005 10:34:22 AM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: mabelkitty
So before the knee-jerkers start calling us selfish, just take into consideration - my income helps subsidize your child-rearing in more ways than one, and you get the immediately benefits of it.

Ding. We have a winner.

323 posted on 01/03/2005 10:34:39 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Raycpa
Hi Raycpa-

"...I take it you don't comprehend statistics..."


Of course I comprehend statistics, because I'm a pretty intelligent person. Arguing that "childless voters went for Kerry while families with kids went for Bush" is a broad-brush position that is patently silly.

There are many more dynamics at work here than just children. Urban areas have long been leftist hotbeds, regardless of family size.

The fact-of-the-matter is that no decent parents would try to raise a litter of six children in Manhattan, unless they were multi-millionaires...as alluded by your article. Normal couples with intentions of a large family are practically compelled to move to suburban or even rural environments to afford the required housing.

~ Blue Jays ~

324 posted on 01/03/2005 10:37:01 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: MojoWire

I'm not talking about the extreme cases where women kill their children. I'm talking about parents who have children and then hand over their raising to someone else---be it day care or society in general. There are parents who don't have the "instinct" you are talking about. Their career and their search for more and more affluence is much more important to them than their children.

I've seen it too many times, even in my own family.

I think it's great that you have never met anyone who failed to love their baby once it was born, but it happens more often than you realize, and, to be honest, I blame most of the ills of society on that fact.


325 posted on 01/03/2005 10:37:50 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: Bella_Bru
It's not immature though to not want children. Not everyone has the desire to raise kids. Why is that so tough for you to understand?

In most cases, it is. Wanting only two children qualifies as well. No society can be maintained with that sort of outlook.

326 posted on 01/03/2005 10:38:03 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: DennisR

What is your philosophy regarding debt? How do you feel about relying on government schools for eduation? Do you support reliance on day care? Just curious ...


327 posted on 01/03/2005 10:38:37 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Who the hell cares about college in comparison to bringing another life into the world?

Responsible people who care about their childrens' future. We have way too many people in this world who get knocked up without thinking about what kind of life they can provide their child.

We're human beings, not rabbits.

328 posted on 01/03/2005 10:38:40 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Ellesu

Well, I think it's time this woman has a baby shower! Anyone want to join me? (just kidding)

Hubby and I just gave birth to our eighth child, and we have never had a baby shower. I never expected to have one either. If this person wants a party for herself, then she could break with societal norms and give herself one. Or her husband could give her a party. That's perfectly acceptable, and she could even have petitfours with little baby booties on top if she wants.


329 posted on 01/03/2005 10:39:53 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Slyfox
I was told that when she was told that her mother had died, the daughter exclaimed, "Praise the Lord!"

OMG, there is a special place in hell for that gal.

My father died seven years ago - I'm still not over it. My mother lives in a mother-in-law suite we built at our home for her shortly after his death. She's 84, a handful, drives to Mass every day, and watches Fox News exclusively. She'll call me at the office to scream about democrats, the UN, or anything on the left - they are keeping her young. ;-)

330 posted on 01/03/2005 10:40:30 AM PST by Quilla
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To: mabelkitty
"If you had it to do all over again, would you have children?" Majority said, no, they would not.

Keep in mind that it's the unhappy who are more likely to complain. One reason why stores have complaint departments and not compliment departments.

331 posted on 01/03/2005 10:40:35 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Blue Jays
So, its not possible to make any general statements unless they are 100% true ?

Therefore its false to say republicans voted for Bush while democrats voted for Kerry because there are examples of cross over ?

332 posted on 01/03/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Bella_Bru

My wife and I don't have any kids by choice. We are the ones that just have no interest. We are not self centered and are not doing so to save the environment etc. We are not liberal and vote Republican and are against abortion.

I've heard enough when many on this board said you are self centered because you don't want any kids. What a bunch of crap.


333 posted on 01/03/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: Rebelbase
The most "fulfilled" DINKS I know are those who pursue equestrian hobbies. Horses take the place of kids both for having something to love and at the same time having something to take your money.

Message to DINKS: Please don't regale us with stories about your "babies" (dogs or cats) at coffee. Please!

334 posted on 01/03/2005 10:42:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: qam1

If you want life to always be "all about you," don't have kids. I am so glad my life is not all about me.


335 posted on 01/03/2005 10:43:07 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: MojoWire

The news is filled with children put at risk by their own parents every day.
The news is filled with children who are murdered by their parents are due to their parents lifestyle every day.

I wonder how many of them had the instinct to pass on child-rearing, but for some reason or another (selfish?) decided to have them any way.


336 posted on 01/03/2005 10:43:40 AM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: zoobee

and let's not forget that ALOT Of kids born today are accidents.
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Maybe so, but that doesn't automatically mean they are unwanted or unloved children. Speaking from experience here. :)


337 posted on 01/03/2005 10:44:13 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
We like children, but aren't sure right now that we should have them now... we married late, I am the 'she' and I am 37.

Fertility drops off after 35. Way off after 40. Look into it. Getting pregnant isn't a sure thing.

338 posted on 01/03/2005 10:45:57 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: hopespringseternal
No society can be maintained with that sort of outlook.

Wow. How...socialist of you. We must all have many kids to keep the social services machine running? So, I guess you don't give a damn who has to pay for them (welfare is swellfare as long as you have kids!) or give a damn if they are wanted, just so long as people have them. Great attitude. F* what happens to them once they are here, just make sure they get here!

339 posted on 01/03/2005 10:46:07 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Aquinasfan; HairOfTheDog

Anything is possible with God. Besides if a woman takes good care of herself she can have kids later.


340 posted on 01/03/2005 10:47:10 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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