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Sheriff posts snipers after firings Georgia judge orders workers reinstated
CNN ^ | 4 Jan 2005 | AP

Posted on 01/05/2005 6:26:16 AM PST by Old Mountain man

JONESBORO, Georgia (AP) -- On his first day on the job, the new sheriff called 27 employees into his office, stripped them of their badges, fired them, and had rooftop snipers stand guard as they were escorted out the door. The move Monday by Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill provoked an angry reaction and prompted a judge to order him to rehire the employees. "It appears ... that employees of the Sheriff were terminated without cause" and in violation of the county's civil service rules, Judge Stephen Boswell wrote in granting a 30-day restraining order. Hill, 39, defended the firings and said the new sheriff has the right to shake up the department in whatever way he feels necessary. He told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he fired the employees to "maintain the integrity of the department." "A lot of people are under the impression that the sheriff's office is under civil service laws," he said. "But my research shows the employees work at the pleasure of the sheriff." The firings had a racial overtone. Hill was among a spate of black candidates elected last year in the county once dominated by rural whites. The county seat was the setting for the fictional plantation Tara in "Gone With The Wind." The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black. Another of the newly elected black officials, Eldrin Bell, called the move illegal and filed for the restraining order granted by the judge. Bell is the new county commission chairman and former Atlanta police chief. Hill said the manner in which he fired the workers -- including taking some deputies home in vans normally used to transport prisoners because the deputies were barred from using county cars -- was

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This is the most blatant act of racism I've seen from my home state in many years. This guy is a nut!
1 posted on 01/05/2005 6:26:20 AM PST by Old Mountain man
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To: Old Mountain man

I suggest they get a lawyer. Even if there is no civil service protection they have rights.


2 posted on 01/05/2005 6:29:50 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Old Mountain man
This guy is not only a nut, he has cost his county MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of dollars.

Hiring or firing on the basis of race -- black OR white -- is extremely illegal.

3 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:07 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Old Mountain man
The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black.

No racism or hate crime here...move along...

4 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:20 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Old Mountain man

Bump for later read.


5 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:21 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (and I did preview this time (not really))
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To: Old Mountain man

I wonder how many well meaning socially liberal Repubs voted for this nut case. You know he got all the Dum votes. They are probably cheering this "payback". Talk about unconstitutional.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:24 AM PST by marty60
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To: Old Mountain man
It's not racism if a Caucasian person didn't do it!

< /sarcasm >
7 posted on 01/05/2005 6:30:33 AM PST by kimmie7
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To: Old Mountain man
"This is the most blatant act of racism I've seen from my home state in many years..."

I don't know - sounds like he is just cleaning up a little fiefdom........

8 posted on 01/05/2005 6:32:52 AM PST by yoe
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To: Old Mountain man

Racism???? Cant be. Blacks firing whites is good.


9 posted on 01/05/2005 6:33:15 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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later read


10 posted on 01/05/2005 6:33:35 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Old Mountain man
OMG, check out his website!

Freepers at work: Turn your speakers down.


11 posted on 01/05/2005 6:34:18 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Old Mountain man

I guess I must have missed this story last night on the MSM since it would be covered as such a open case of racism.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 6:34:27 AM PST by BobCNY
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To: Old Mountain man; Vigilantcitizen; RobFromGa

>>Another of the newly elected black officials, Eldrin Bell, called the move illegal and filed for the restraining order granted by the judge. Bell is the new county commission chairman and former Atlanta police chief.

This is the part of this story that got my attention.

In the DeKalb County case here, where the new sheriff was murdered by a conspiracy planned by the old crooked sheriff, there was lots of squirrelly stuff going on, that caused the new sheriff to make many dismissals on taking office. He was then murdered shortly after.

I've heard of nothing like this in Clayton County, that would make moves like this more understandable.

Anyone have any idea what's really going on here? Nutcase new sheriff?


13 posted on 01/05/2005 6:34:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Old Mountain man

Well, since "Tara Boulevard" is the most prominent street in Clayton County, the firings were justified.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 6:35:12 AM PST by Guillermo (Tsunami relief: http://compassionservices.com)
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To: Old Mountain man

< Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black. >

Whether he has just cause or not, he can cover himself by saying they were fired for incompetence (yeah, sure), but he's going to have a hard time explaining the remark about replacements.


15 posted on 01/05/2005 6:35:45 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: Old Mountain man

Don't worry, I'm sure Reverend Jackson will help these officers who have had their civil rights violated. I'll be waiting Reverend! NOT!
16 posted on 01/05/2005 6:36:37 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Old Mountain man

I remember when Bill O'Reilly got his shorts in a knot when white students at a Georgia High School decided to have their own all-white prom off of school grounds. He screamed and carried on, wondering why Gov. Perdue wasn't getting involved. I wonder if Ol' Bill will have the nerve to tackle this obviously racist act by this new black Sheriff.


17 posted on 01/05/2005 6:37:03 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: Old Mountain man

This an outrage!
How on earth do such psychopaths get elected to public office?


18 posted on 01/05/2005 6:37:18 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: TheForceOfOne

I'm sure the ACLU is already on it.


19 posted on 01/05/2005 6:37:29 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: Old Mountain man

Positioning snipers is the most incredible part of it. He obviously thought that his actions would trigger civil disorder.


20 posted on 01/05/2005 6:37:58 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Old Mountain man
The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black.

Performed in the greatest traditions of Nelson Mandela and South Africa

21 posted on 01/05/2005 6:39:16 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Natural Selection = the weak and stupid die!)
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To: Old Mountain man

andy taylor would have never done anything like this in mayberry.


22 posted on 01/05/2005 6:39:48 AM PST by kingattax
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To: Old Mountain man

Ah... the sub sahara mentality comes to Georgia?


23 posted on 01/05/2005 6:40:25 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: FreedomPoster; dead

"I'm the Sheriff. You hear me. I'm the damn sheriff. I'll fire anyone I want cause I'm the damn sheriff. I'm the shogun of Clayton County. And there nothing, NOTHING anyone can do about it. You know why?"
"Because you're the damn sheriff?"
"Damn right, I'm the damn sheriff. Sheriff Shogun. People must be stupid thinking I ain't the damn sheriff. Crazy out their head. I'll take a gun and shoot them in their big stupid head. And there's nothing they can do about it. You know why? Because the damn sheriff did that. Sheriff Shogun for sure".


24 posted on 01/05/2005 6:41:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Quilla

LOL!!!!

25 posted on 01/05/2005 6:41:42 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Old Mountain man

Taking lessons from Mugabe?


26 posted on 01/05/2005 6:42:35 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Quilla

OH Sh!t....lollol Look at the URL!!


http://www.claytonsheriff.com/images/sheriff_bubba.gif


"sheriff_bubba" LOL!!!


27 posted on 01/05/2005 6:42:49 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Old Mountain man

A new broom sweeps clean. When sorted out, he may have properly exercised his powers as Sheriff. People who can't perform should be replaced.


28 posted on 01/05/2005 6:42:52 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: Old Mountain man
I know the story got you a little excited, but man, could you please use the actual title so we don't have to wade through multiple posts...

Sheriff posts snipers after firings

The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black. So, were those four the only white high-ranking officers? The article doesn't say for sure. This guy is a nut, but so blatant that this should be remedied quickly.
29 posted on 01/05/2005 6:43:53 AM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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To: Old Mountain man; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black.

OMG!!

30 posted on 01/05/2005 6:43:54 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: AppyPappy

This guy's been stoking the flames of racism for a while. From a December 2004 article in the AJC:

"Clayton County Sheriff-elect Victor Hill said vindictive politics and racism are behind a county move to shift a crime scene investigations unit from the Sheriff's Department to the Clayton County Police Department.

"It's blatantly politically motivated, and blatantly discriminatory," Hill said Wednesday in a telephone interview. Hill, who is African-American, takes office in January. "It wasn't until an African-American became sheriff . . . that any movement of these units was discussed," he said.

On Tuesday, with a roomful of Hill supporters on hand, the Clayton County Board of Commissioners approved the move 3-1 with the only African-American member, Virginia Gray, abstaining.

Hill contends that a predominantly white commission, along with a white police chief and outgoing sheriff, wants to usurp his powers before he takes office.

But county officials say the issue has been discussed for nearly a decade and would cut down on confusion between investigators in both departments. Commissioner Charley Griswell, who introduced the change at the meeting, said it's not about race or Hill.""


31 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:00 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Old Mountain man

Get the

National
Association (of)
Constantly
Complaining
People

on the job.

Wait, that only works if you're black, female, and/or gay.


32 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:35 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: Old Mountain man

33 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:43 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: GOP_Proud
"Whether he has just cause or not, he can cover himself by saying they were fired for incompetence (yeah, sure), but he's going to have a hard time explaining the remark about replacements."

If these folks are Civil Service employees, he's going to have to prove they were incompetent. That includes repeated bad evaluations, write-ups, discipline, etc. You can't just say they are incompetent, you have to also be able to prove it.

34 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:47 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: Old Mountain man
Victor Hill is NOT the pig...He is a Black Man 'speaking truth to power'....
35 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:56 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: Quilla

THanks for the speaker warning. I thought such cheap synthesizer music died in the late '80's. He makes Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltraine look like a pro!


36 posted on 01/05/2005 6:45:57 AM PST by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: TheForceOfOne

Employees having their rights violated? Where's the ACLU?


37 posted on 01/05/2005 6:46:31 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: OXENinFLA

Bubba! LOL!


38 posted on 01/05/2005 6:46:39 AM PST by Quilla
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To: bert

hard to say what the truth of the matter is without more information.
But his comments in the paper about seeking replacing white cops with black ones sounds pretty damning, if true. That makes it sound like the firings were at least partly just because of the color of their skin, which would be flat out racism.


39 posted on 01/05/2005 6:47:16 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Old Mountain man

I'm sure that the US Justice Department will have their civil rights attorneys there in the next few minutes to file charges against the sheriff. They ususally do, don't they? Oh, I forgot, this is "reverse" discrimination which is ok.


40 posted on 01/05/2005 6:47:23 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: kenth
A new broom sweeps clean. When sorted out, he may have properly exercised his powers as Sheriff. People who can't perform should be replaced.

The fired employees included four of the highest-ranking officers, all of them white. Hill told the newspaper their replacements would be black.

Sorry, this is just a case of racism plain and simple. They should ride this sheriff out on a rail. He just cost that county millions.

41 posted on 01/05/2005 6:47:54 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: KwasiOwusu
"How on earth do such psychopaths get elected to public office?"

The same way lying, perjuring, cheating, dope-smoking, traitorous rapists get elected to be Commander-in-Chief.

42 posted on 01/05/2005 6:48:13 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: mass55th

Don't count on it! lol


43 posted on 01/05/2005 6:48:28 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Old Mountain man

It appears that the new Sheriff is trying to send some sort of message, unfortunately the message that's being broadcasted right now is a loud boisterous "I'm a racist!". He could have quietly replaced those officers over a period of time if he felt the officers were part of a 'good ole boy network' who had abused their powers. The remark that the replacements would be black does not look good.


44 posted on 01/05/2005 6:48:35 AM PST by contemplator
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To: OXENinFLA

this dude is a mixture of Clinton and Mayor Street


45 posted on 01/05/2005 6:49:16 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: OXENinFLA

Interesting isn't it that he has a white Sheriff's graphic on his website?


46 posted on 01/05/2005 6:49:22 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: AppyPappy

You watch it boy. Making fun of the sheriff! You gots to be crazy in your head.


47 posted on 01/05/2005 6:49:32 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mass55th

Not for long.


48 posted on 01/05/2005 6:51:38 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: bert
"People who can't perform should be replaced."

The last time I looked, this was still America, and Civil Servants have to be proven incompetent before they are given the ax. This act is no different than what the Clinton's did to the White House Travel Office.

49 posted on 01/05/2005 6:51:40 AM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: HMFIC
Get the National Association (of) Constantly Complaining People on the job.

Gee, there are posters on this very forum that fall under that category.

50 posted on 01/05/2005 6:51:46 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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