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President 2008: Keep an Eye on George Allen
NRO: The Corner ^ | 01/05/2005 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 01/05/2005 11:26:57 AM PST by WoodstockCat

PREMATURE 2008 PUNDITRY [Rich Lowry ] Here is how one GOP insider sees the state of play (in other words, not necessarily my take on things). Rudy Guiliani wasn't fundamentally hurt by the Kerik flap. Its ultimately Kerik's problem, not Giuliani's. The former mayor is loved by GOP crowds and has great all-around political skills. He has something of George W. Bush's ability to connect with individuals in a crowded room. He was a wonderful surrogate for Bush last year. But his problem on gays, guns, and abortion is probably insurmountable. It is likely he can't fix it short of totally revising his positions, and that will be difficult given his tough-guy, straight-shooter image. Bill Frist is in perhaps the strongest position. He will soak up publicity as Senate Majority Leader, leading on issues like judges. He headed the senatorial committee when the GOP took back the Senate. He is close to the White House, has a good relationship with Dick Cheney, and is loyal to Bush. He is pro life and knows how to talk to socially conservative audiences. He will be able to raise a ton of money. Jeb Bush won't run. He is arguably the most talented GOP officeholder in the country. He would probably be the strongest GOP candidate. But he considers the dynastic issue too serious to overcome. Because of his family and faith, he doesn't lust after the job like most politicians. And he is 52 in February, so is young enough to wait, eight years if neccessary (he probably wouldn't take the VP slot if offered). The theory is that he has to skip at least one cycle the way W did to have some distance from his dad and the way Hillary did to have some distance from Bill. George Allen is a politician to watch. He wears cowboy boots, he is tall and handsome, he doesn't take himself too seriously, he's a solid conservative, and he's putting together a tip-notch team. It will be hard for any senator to get traction, however, when the Senate Majority Leader is running. Mitt Romney is going to have a hard time connecting with the social sonservative base of the party given his Mormon faith--just a fact of life. For what it's worth... Posted at 02:08 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; allen2008; georgeallen; president; republican; richlowry; rnc
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To: Corin Stormhands; Iowa Granny

I know he's genuine. I was just wondering how the Iowa crowd reacted to him.


21 posted on 01/05/2005 11:44:55 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: Doohickey
Allen '08? Works for me. Cantor can run for his Senate seat

From your lips to God's ear!
22 posted on 01/05/2005 11:45:18 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan; Doohickey

Ditto that!


23 posted on 01/05/2005 11:46:18 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: Gabz
I'm tickled pink how fast yer picking up Virginia politics...I've learned a lot from Corin & Ms. Skater, too!!

Old Dominion FReepers ROCK...MUD

24 posted on 01/05/2005 11:46:34 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: WoodstockCat

The Republican nominee will be the one who assembles the best campaign team. It don't make no difference how great the horse is, without a trainer and jockey it ain't gonna be a winner.


25 posted on 01/05/2005 11:47:29 AM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: Gabz
I obviously made the correct assumptions when I started lurking around and following the posts of the 3 of you when preparing to move here!!!!

Wow, I'm totally flattered. Corin and Mudboy are way more knowledgeable than I am, though. And Sultan - God rest his soul.

26 posted on 01/05/2005 11:48:35 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: iceskater
What was the reaction?

I think they liked him. You have to remember the mind set of the typical Iowa Delegate,,, most are quite conservative, so they were happy to see someone other than Rudy & Pataki.

27 posted on 01/05/2005 11:49:29 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: bayourod
The Republican nominee will be the one who assembles the best campaign team.

Does Dick Wadhams count?

28 posted on 01/05/2005 11:49:54 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: ironman

Well, technically I have a Richmond ping list and a Kilgore ping list. But you're on.


29 posted on 01/05/2005 11:51:35 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (No tag line to see here. Move along...)
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To: WoodstockCat
BTTT
30 posted on 01/05/2005 11:52:24 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to other things: http://TroopsSupport.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I think you need to set up a "George Allen for Pres in 2008" ping list.


31 posted on 01/05/2005 11:52:40 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: iceskater

I think you're right...


32 posted on 01/05/2005 11:53:19 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (No tag line to see here. Move along...)
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To: WoodstockCat
Bill Frist is in perhaps the strongest position. He will soak up publicity as Senate Majority Leader, leading on issues like judges.

Not if he keeps caving in to the dems....

33 posted on 01/05/2005 11:53:48 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: WoodstockCat

Allen has hired Dick Wadhams, who helped Thune get elected, and is arguably one of the biggest behind-the-scenes talents that the GOP has.


34 posted on 01/05/2005 11:54:29 AM PST by SoDak (Monthly Donor)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

George Allen is a good man. A nice man. With a beautiful family. BUT, unless he has someone like Rove behind him, I don't think he can survive the democrat's scorched earth way of campaigning. And the MSM. It's going to be ugly. Can Allen kick ass and take names??


35 posted on 01/05/2005 11:57:00 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: JohnnyZ

Tell me about him. At a minimum I would want a manager who has won at least a couple major Senate or Gubernatorial races. The big contributors look very carefully at a candidate's organization.


36 posted on 01/05/2005 11:59:04 AM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: SoDak
Allen has hired Dick Wadhams, who helped Thune get elected, and is arguably one of the biggest behind-the-scenes talents that the GOP has.

Wow...that's quite interesting..not many strategists can claim dumping a sitting majority leader. That along with Allen's success overall in the Senate campaigns (sans Coors) gives him a great headstart for '08. Being a former governor I think insulates him somewhat from just being viewed as Senator (a.k.a. Kerry, Kerrey, Dole, Gramm) etc..

37 posted on 01/05/2005 11:59:32 AM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: Corin Stormhands; iceskater

How about using the Kilgore ping list as a starting point for an Allen ping list?


38 posted on 01/05/2005 12:00:19 PM PST by Gabz
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
Announcing....a tale of TWO ping lists...

If you're getting this ping you are current on ping lists for Jerry Kilgore for Governor in 2005 and George Allen for President in 2008.

Let me know if you want on or off either list.

39 posted on 01/05/2005 12:01:02 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (No tag line to see here. Move along...)
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To: Gabz

heh...


40 posted on 01/05/2005 12:01:36 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (No tag line to see here. Move along...)
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