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President 2008: Keep an Eye on George Allen
NRO: The Corner ^ | 01/05/2005 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 01/05/2005 11:26:57 AM PST by WoodstockCat

PREMATURE 2008 PUNDITRY [Rich Lowry ] Here is how one GOP insider sees the state of play (in other words, not necessarily my take on things). Rudy Guiliani wasn't fundamentally hurt by the Kerik flap. Its ultimately Kerik's problem, not Giuliani's. The former mayor is loved by GOP crowds and has great all-around political skills. He has something of George W. Bush's ability to connect with individuals in a crowded room. He was a wonderful surrogate for Bush last year. But his problem on gays, guns, and abortion is probably insurmountable. It is likely he can't fix it short of totally revising his positions, and that will be difficult given his tough-guy, straight-shooter image. Bill Frist is in perhaps the strongest position. He will soak up publicity as Senate Majority Leader, leading on issues like judges. He headed the senatorial committee when the GOP took back the Senate. He is close to the White House, has a good relationship with Dick Cheney, and is loyal to Bush. He is pro life and knows how to talk to socially conservative audiences. He will be able to raise a ton of money. Jeb Bush won't run. He is arguably the most talented GOP officeholder in the country. He would probably be the strongest GOP candidate. But he considers the dynastic issue too serious to overcome. Because of his family and faith, he doesn't lust after the job like most politicians. And he is 52 in February, so is young enough to wait, eight years if neccessary (he probably wouldn't take the VP slot if offered). The theory is that he has to skip at least one cycle the way W did to have some distance from his dad and the way Hillary did to have some distance from Bill. George Allen is a politician to watch. He wears cowboy boots, he is tall and handsome, he doesn't take himself too seriously, he's a solid conservative, and he's putting together a tip-notch team. It will be hard for any senator to get traction, however, when the Senate Majority Leader is running. Mitt Romney is going to have a hard time connecting with the social sonservative base of the party given his Mormon faith--just a fact of life. For what it's worth... Posted at 02:08 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; allen2008; georgeallen; president; republican; richlowry; rnc
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To: TAquinas

I guess it would be OK for you if the illegals were all white EuroSocialists instead.


81 posted on 01/05/2005 12:45:25 PM PST by Clemenza (President: Liger Breeders of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: bayourod

Actually, the best candidate will draw to him the best team. It's a vicious circle. The best campaign workers (managers, pollsters) will go to the candidate they think has a reasonable chance to win.


82 posted on 01/05/2005 12:45:28 PM PST by AmishDude (Official pseudo-Amish mathematician of FreeRepublic.)
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To: iceskater

Thank you. I feel mighty welcome on the light side.


83 posted on 01/05/2005 12:45:48 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: loreldan

I suspect that Senator Allen will view that as a challenge to overcome not an obstacle to success.


84 posted on 01/05/2005 12:46:18 PM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: loreldan
Senators have a hard time winning Presidential elections

Allen is a former governor with Executive experience.

85 posted on 01/05/2005 12:47:40 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Hammerhead

I see you're making light of the third world immigration issue.

I surmise that you must be benefitting from it.

You're posterity, eventually, won't. Mark my words on this. I know what you're thinking. You think that when the sh*t starts to hit the fan, you'll be running back to civilization - Europe. Well, I'm here to tell you that I will be here to defend our forefathers' heritage from the hordes of third world illegal aliens.


86 posted on 01/05/2005 12:48:17 PM PST by TAquinas
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To: loreldan
I'm all for that ticket, but the problem is Senators have a hard time winning Presidential elections

If Hitlery runs, that is a moot point.

87 posted on 01/05/2005 12:51:22 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: LdSentinal

That's right! I am not voting for any man that cheats on his wife. I don't know about Owens, but I do know Tim Hutchinson.


88 posted on 01/05/2005 12:52:28 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: CommerceComet

What did the NRA rate Allen?


89 posted on 01/05/2005 12:54:47 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Why do Red States have Blue Senators?)
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To: loreldan

George Allen was governor of Virginia before he was term-limited out. He has exec experience. It shouldn't be a problem.


90 posted on 01/05/2005 12:56:22 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Clemenza

No.

I want them here legally if they are to enter the country.


91 posted on 01/05/2005 12:58:42 PM PST by TAquinas
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To: Sybeck1
What did the NRA rate Allen?

According to a Handgun Control Press Release, aka Brady he received an "A" from the NRA.

Brady Handgun Control Press Release

92 posted on 01/05/2005 12:59:09 PM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: Doohickey

I'm in Spotsylvania County which is split 80/20 between the 1st CD (Jo Ann Davis) and 7th CD (Eric Cantor); social and fiscal conservatives, we love them both! I've been hearing a lot of chatter in DC about Jo Ann taking the next open Senate seat. She already holds the distinction of being the first woman from the Commonwealth elected to the House, that would give her both honors.

I'm curious if you think the fact that Cantor is Jewish could hurt him statewide? Or help him? Or have no effect?


93 posted on 01/05/2005 1:04:23 PM PST by DC_Diva
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To: WoodstockCat
If you were Allen would you run for Senate in 2006 or use the two years to distance yourself from D.C.?

Reelect, no question. If he didn't run again and Mark Warner picked up his senate seat, that would look really really bad. Even worse than when Bill Owens didn't run for Campbell's seat and Salazar ended up winning.

With a reelect, Allen has an excuse to raise lots of money, which he can save for the prez election (as JFnKerry did) if he doesn't have a tough opponent. If he DOES have a tough opponent (Warner) he'll get added attention and prestige from beating him.

94 posted on 01/05/2005 1:07:42 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: DC_Diva
I'm curious if you think the fact that Cantor is Jewish could hurt him statewide?

I think of him as the anti-Lieberman. I don't know that his religion has really mattered that much.

95 posted on 01/05/2005 1:07:57 PM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: stevio

"If Hitlery runs, that is a moot point."

Good point, just about all of the demo's stars are Senators except for Dean who doesn't have a chance.


96 posted on 01/05/2005 1:08:45 PM PST by loreldan
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To: WoodstockCat

I like George Allen and Mark Sanford. I'm kinda torn on whom to throw in with (not that anyone is really clamoring for my support :) I think an Allen-Giuliani ticket would be unbeatable.


97 posted on 01/05/2005 1:08:48 PM PST by TheBigB ("Eat my rubber!"--Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
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To: JohnnyZ
If he DOES have a tough opponent (Warner) he'll get added attention and prestige from beating him.

There's a lot of hype over Warner running on the dem ticket, too. As a number of others have pointed out on other threads, Warner is Edwards-lite (and a horrible governor).

98 posted on 01/05/2005 1:09:45 PM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Mudboy Slim

Please add me to your George Allen ping list -- as Mud can attest, I have been a fan of his for a long time and think he should run with J.C. Watts in 2008! That is my dream ticket.

J.C. spent countless hours in the black communities this time to get more votes for the President and is still very popular all over the Country. George Allen has been at the top of my list for a long time and thought he has done a fantastic job heading up NRSC!


99 posted on 01/05/2005 1:09:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- GO SOONERS -- YEA -- Jason White is GONE!!!!!!)
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To: loreldan

Don't count Howard Dean out. If I were still a looney liberal democrat......I would want Dean to run in '08. If he doesn't go for DNC chairman, he's getting ready for '08.


100 posted on 01/05/2005 1:13:57 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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