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Peggy Noonan: If I Were a Democrat [Here's what I'd do]
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 6, 2005 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/06/2005 5:02:31 AM PST by RWR8189

The 109th Congress has been sworn in and convened, and now the new post-election reality begins. If I were a Democrat right now I would think big and get serious. Second terms are tough for incumbents; history has not handed George W. Bush an easy ride, and there's no reason to think that will change now; and Mr. Bush is a gambler who's not afraid to throw the dice, which means he will likely have not only stunning gains but stunning losses ahead. The Democrats are still competitive. "In every defeat lies the seed of future victory, in every victory lies the seed of future defeat." Every morning I'd put my game face on knowing my party will stand a good chance of making a big presidential comeback in four years. Look confident; this will encourage victory. Or at least leave people saying you look confident, which for you will be a victory.

No one wants to be head of the Democratic National Committee. This is bad but understandable. A fractious party has been further fractured by a hard year. What you need for DNC chairman is a man or woman of some stature who can make the case for your party day in and day out in big media. Fund-raising expertise is secondary--hire someone to do it. So is organizational skill--hire organizers. You need someone who makes the Democratic Party look nonsleazy, nonmanipulative and nonweak on TV. He doesn't have to be nationally known, but he must be--how to put this?--good-natured, moderate in manner, and normal-seeming. That would mean not Howard Dean.

There is much to build on. You hold 44 Senate seats, 202 House seats and 22 governorships. You have been on a losing strain for a while, but you can turn that into opportunity.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; dnc; noonan; peggynoonan; pufflist

1 posted on 01/06/2005 5:02:31 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Shh, Peggy! Don't let them get smart! ;)


2 posted on 01/06/2005 5:07:37 AM PST by The Teen Conservative
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To: The Teen Conservative
She's using reverse psychology. Such good advice comming from a GOPer is not likely to be heard let alone utilized. In fact they would probably do a hard 180.

:-))

3 posted on 01/06/2005 5:12:28 AM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: RWR8189

She left out issue #1 - Immigration.

Round up the illegals and head 'em out.


4 posted on 01/06/2005 5:17:41 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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To: RWR8189

I love her. As usual she is right on the mark. Fortunately, they won't listen to her.


5 posted on 01/06/2005 5:19:07 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: RWR8189

Personally, I prefer the idea of moving to Canada.


6 posted on 01/06/2005 5:20:51 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: RWR8189
Oh f'cryin'out loud, Peggy! You're talking about the Party of Decadence, Sleaze, Marxism, and Corruption!

If I were a Democrat, I'd abandon that bunch of power hungry sociopaths and mindless robots so fast your head would spin and become either a Libertarian or a Republican.

The once respectable Democrat Party has nothing to offer but decay, corruption, iconoclasm, and blind faith in the predictably and endlessly proven failure of the policies of Karl Marx, cloaked in the tiresome, threadbare mantel of the '60's hippie tantrum.

Why don't you offer some how-to-succeed advice Fidel Castro, Larry Flynt, Charlie Manson, and the Colombia Cocaine Cartel?!??

7 posted on 01/06/2005 5:21:30 AM PST by Savage Beast (The internet is the newspaper of record.)
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To: AFreeBird
The Bush administration has stood for cutting taxes, allowing high spending, and being tough in the world. The Democrats stand for raising taxes, high spending, and being weak in the world. Should the Democrats become more like Republicans? Yes, they should. Then, in the next big contest, they can agree on the big points with the Republicans and win on three other things. First, on small points, as Mr. Clinton did with such key issues as The Campaign for the Right Child-Carrying Seatbelts. Second, on campaign expertise. Third, on the personality and character of the candidate.

Masterfully crafted, Peggy.

8 posted on 01/06/2005 5:22:10 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: RWR8189
Peggy Noonan: If I Were a Democrat [Here's what I'd do]

Don't do it Peggy! You have so much to live for!

9 posted on 01/06/2005 5:28:37 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Pittsburg Phil

Everything is the #1 issue when your President. Maybe you guys should trade places?


11 posted on 01/06/2005 5:32:11 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RWR8189

I like her, but I wish she'd give advice to the GOP side of the aisle. Maybe she already is, I don't know..


12 posted on 01/06/2005 5:32:43 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Pittsburg Phil

No, immigration is in there, albeit briefly:

"John Kerry was almost shrewd to try to get to the right of Bush on issues like homeland security and immigration. I say almost because he didn't do it long enough or deeply enough, and by the time he made his move no one believed much of what he said....Homeland security can always be improved, and immigration will only grow as a fact and an issue. Get serious."

I'm amazed the completely in-the-tank pro-immigration Wall Street Journal let her say even this much.


13 posted on 01/06/2005 5:33:18 AM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: gridlock

If I was in a Dem leadership position I would simply do this:

I would abandon all special interests that play to the left. Then I would go after the moderates from both parties. I would be strong on defense, moderate on spending, work to reduce local taxes and probably be cognizant of choice, however not make a political issue out of it.


14 posted on 01/06/2005 5:40:57 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: Brilliant
Personally, I prefer the idea of moving to Canada.

Easier and cheaper to just re-register as a Republican.

C'mon Donks! Listen to your inner elephant!

15 posted on 01/06/2005 5:42:54 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
While questioning Mr. Gonzales the dems will prove to the world that their sympathies lie with the terrorists against their own innocent civilians.

No amount of false posturing on abortion is going to change the mind of any sensible voter.

The dems have truly lost their way and their souls.

16 posted on 01/06/2005 5:43:22 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: jocon307

Yes, and more people would adopt pigs as pets if only they'd become puppy dogs.


17 posted on 01/06/2005 5:44:29 AM PST by ReadyNow
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To: gridlock

We've already got to many RINOs pretending to be elephants. Let them move to Canada.


18 posted on 01/06/2005 5:45:02 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: RWR8189

I watched part of O'Reilly last night, and it struck me that frankly, the only Democrat I can see who could have ANY credibility for the Democratic party is Jerry Brown (now mayor, former governor, former presidential candidate). He can go on national TV and not sound like a nut job like Dean or Clarke. He's not an arrogant idiot like McAuliffe (all bow to the wonderful job he did for us Republicans!) or sKerry (bow in thanks to the Democrats for nominating THAT loser!). Brown sounds moderate, even if he isn't. In many ways, he's the perfect stealth DNC chair, as opposed to the entirely insubstantial slate they have now.

But as noted up thread, Peggy's advice was intended to create a healthy two-party debate on the issues, instead of the screaming and childish temper tantrums of one party; the Dems probably won't take any advice from a Republican unless it is personally approved by x42 or his "co"-president, Shrillary. If they can't win by yelling at you about the eeeeee-vil Republicans, then they think they didn't yell loud enough to get their message across.


19 posted on 01/06/2005 5:45:25 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Democrats: operating with a complete absence of facts.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think Peggy is right on the money on local taxes. I live in NJ, and our state is wallowing in corruption. Every time you turn around, there is another boondoggle with another politician being paid off. Meanwhile, state income and property taxes are going up 20% a year, every year.

I mean, political corruption is OK as long as they leave me alone. But when they start raising my property taxes a thousand bucks a year, just to stuff the money in their pockets, I start getting PO'ed.


20 posted on 01/06/2005 5:45:56 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: OldFriend

"The dems have truly lost their way and their souls."

And that big sucking sound you hear is the 50+million who voted for Kerry (supposedly) going down the toilet with them.


21 posted on 01/06/2005 5:49:30 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: alwaysconservative

"Jerry Brown"

I like Jerry Brown too, for a dem, but I am afraid that like "Screaming" Howard Dean (no flaming, I hate Dean because I am pretty sure he is an abortionist, certainly a radical abortion rights advocate, but I don't really think he is crazy, just because he had an exuberant moment. If that was really the standard, I'd be in Bellvue myself right now), Brown has been permanently branded by the MSM as "Governor Moonbeam".

The MSM may like the left a lot more than the right, but that does not stop them from unfairly mocking people of the left for their own useless amusement. This is a big part of the reason that it is hard to get good, smart, honest people into elected office.


22 posted on 01/06/2005 5:53:45 AM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Think of all the money Joe Trippi scimmed while supposedly working for Dean.

Wonder if the dem voters will figure out how they were scammed.

23 posted on 01/06/2005 5:54:27 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: OldFriend

Think they care? It's every man for himself! Women and children...last.


24 posted on 01/06/2005 5:55:16 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I was referring to the average young person who sent money to Dean......and the fools on the college campus who sent money to Kerry.


25 posted on 01/06/2005 5:57:24 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: OldFriend

Oh, okay.
I guess I was thinking do the Dems care if they were scammed. I think they almost wouldnt care.


26 posted on 01/06/2005 6:00:58 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RWR8189
"What you need for DNC chairman is a man or woman of some stature who can make the case for your party day in and day out in big media."

Skweeze me??

The "big media" has been trying to do that for almost 40 years...even stooping to falsified memos and being co-conspirators. THe Big Media is a first cousin of the Democratic Party.

27 posted on 01/06/2005 6:03:12 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: The Teen Conservative
moderate in manner, and normal-seeming. That would mean not Howard Dean.

"I represent that remark, Noonan!"

28 posted on 01/06/2005 6:03:22 AM PST by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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To: RWR8189
Unless the Democrats can remove their egalitarian beliefs, they will be unable to put into practice any of the advice Peggy is giving them.

They are FOR income redistribution because it fits their egalitarian beliefs AND because they have to BUY votes.

29 posted on 01/06/2005 6:10:43 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: RWR8189

Instead they're contesting Bush's election. which makes them look like cheap suits or nutballs, depending on you point of view.


30 posted on 01/06/2005 6:27:25 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: alwaysconservative

Evan Bayh doesn't sound crazy. He will be the nominee in '08, if they're smart. Of course, they're not.

The Pubs should do everything they can to get Bayh over to the right side. Any Indiana Freepers have opinions on Bayh?


31 posted on 01/06/2005 6:58:01 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Free Speech is a Right. Being Wrong is Just...Wrong.)
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To: RWR8189
Get serious ... Be grown up ... Be sane...

Good advice for both parties.

Good advice for everyone.

Shalom.

32 posted on 01/06/2005 7:08:41 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: alwaysconservative
I watched part of O'Reilly last night, and it struck me that frankly, the only Democrat I can see who could have ANY credibility for the Democratic party is Jerry Brown

I saw that too, but last time Brown was on he DID come off as a nut case.

33 posted on 01/06/2005 7:56:29 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has metastasized into a dangerous neurosis which threatens the nation's security)
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To: SheLion
In the article

"And don't forget to confuse categories. Be counterintuitive. Republican Mike Bloomberg of New York won't let workingmen and -women smoke at the local bar. Democrats always wind up in support of such measures. Don't! Distance yourself from the smoke Nazis, from all Nazis. Be sane; take the side of normal humans with normal imperfections. Let the Republicans look stupid on these issues if they choose to.

34 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:16 AM PST by qam1 (Anyone who was born in New Jersey should not be allowed to drive at night or on hills.)
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To: qam1
"And don't forget to confuse categories. Be counterintuitive. Republican Mike Bloomberg of New York won't let workingmen and -women smoke at the local bar. Democrats always wind up in support of such measures. Don't! Distance yourself from the smoke Nazis, from all Nazis. Be sane; take the side of normal humans with normal imperfections. Let the Republicans look stupid on these issues if they choose to.

What is she trying to say?

The Rats are the ones behind the smoking bans, and that's why we hate BloomingIdiot. He is nothing but a RINO.

35 posted on 01/06/2005 9:31:02 AM PST by SheLion (Please donate to Free Republic. Keep our spirits alive and our friends close.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I predict that the rats become something akin to the Green party and cease to be a factor in American Politics. Not to say that's the end of the two-party system. I predict the conservatives and neo-liberals in the Republican Party won't be able to play together over time and one faction or the other will split and form a new opposition party.


36 posted on 01/06/2005 10:03:15 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: alwaysconservative

governor moonbeam? I believe he said he was going to run for Senate. But I think he would take the DNC chair.


37 posted on 01/06/2005 10:05:28 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: jocon307
just because he had an exuberant moment.

I'm glad someone besides me noticed that. He got tagged with being insane, but he had that huge grin on his face when he was done and looked to me like he was just having a lot of fun firing up his campaign team. In some ways it was his most likeable moment.

That was a case of the MSM going in the tank early and spiking Dean's campaign in favor of the sKerry one. In fact, that may have given them such a sense of their own invulnerability that they thought they could drive the general election as well. Too bad for them.

38 posted on 01/06/2005 10:18:59 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Women and children...last.

I blame Boooosh! And Halliburton.

39 posted on 01/06/2005 10:19:49 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: johnb838

"That was a case of the MSM going in the tank early and spiking Dean's campaign in favor of the sKerry one."

Yes, you are right. Rathergate was rewarding, but those folks need to come down a bunch more pegs, they really don't do their constitutionally mandated jobs at all. Not the real mainstreamers, anyway. All the respectable opinion journals, right & left, do a better job.

I'll never forget when Steve Forbes was running for Pres. the first (only?) time, and a return to the Gold Standard was part of his platform. He was on one of the insipid morning shows and all they did was basically laugh at him over it. Didn't ask him to explain it, or why he thought it was a good idea, nothing! Here was this millionaire, publisher of a well respected business magazine, with this BIG idea in economics, and all the two dopes interviewing him did was treat him like a boob. I supported Forbes, although I figured he was a no-chancer (unfairly, like Miracle Joe Lieberman, just not handsome enough to be President in the TV age), but it wasn't that I supported him that infuriated me so much. You are right, they see their role as one of manipulation, I guess that's a post-Watergate thing, not informing the public.

Those AM shows are particularly bad. The only reason I even saw the Forbes interview was that I got in a really bad (and long) jag of watching those shows during some really awful winters we had a few years ago. Thank goodness I can watch Fox or the Weather Channel should that ever happen again.


40 posted on 01/06/2005 3:14:13 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: SheLion
What is she trying to say?

She is trying to say that instead of going along with the Republicans(RINOS) when they try and push smoking bans is they should oppose it. With all these traitor Republicans the Rats have a good chance of siphoning many votes away from these RINOS.

The Rats are the ones behind the smoking bans, and that's why we hate BloomingIdiot.

Unfortunately not. It's almost always Republicans who push for these idiotic bans with the Democrats joining in later

*Mike Bloomberg Republican pushed a city ban before the state and is the ultimate anti-smoking Nazi
*NYC Councilman Odo  (Staten Island) a Republican who introduced the city ban .
*All 38 Republican NYS Senators voted for the ban (It should be noted that the GOP has a big 38-24 majority in that chamber)
*George Pataki Republican governor signed it.
*John Rowland Republican Governor Connecticut also signed a total ban in his state.
* Mitt Romney Republican Governor of Massachusettes also signed a total ban in his state.
* As well Republican governor Lincoln Almond in Rhode Island
* The chief sponsors of the Delaware smoking ban were Republicans Reps. Deborah Hudson (Fairthorne) and Robert J. Valihura Jr.(Edenridge) 
*It was a Republican Senator Karl Turner (Cumberland)  that originally sponsored the ban in Maine
* Republican Beulah Coughenour City Councilman of Indianapolis attempted (but failed) to bring a smoking ban to that city
* In Georgia in 2004, The Republican controlled house tried to pass a smoking ban (They were stopped by the Democrat controlled senate!!!!!!!)
*Republican Governors Guinn, Kempthorne, Pataki, Perry, Rowland, Taft and Probably a few others I can't think of right now all have recently raised taxes on cigarettes
*Republican Senators Judd and Hatch right now are working on stopping people from buying cigarettes over the internet and getting congress to regulate (i.e. Ban) tobacco.
*John Ashcroft a Republican appointee via the justice system is continuing where Janet Reno left off and suing the tobacco companies.

The only Republican that you can say is remotely standing up for smokers is Arnold Swarzenegger

OH, BTW As well as in Ga there were smoking bans killed in DC, NJ, MD, and VT, All by Democrat controlled legislators

41 posted on 01/06/2005 3:24:48 PM PST by qam1 (Anyone who was born in New Jersey should not be allowed to drive at night or on hills.)
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To: qam1
OH, BTW As well as in Ga there were smoking bans killed in DC, NJ, MD, and VT, All by Democrat controlled legislators

I used to like Pataki until he too, signed that bill.

Well, thanks for the info.

42 posted on 01/06/2005 3:46:12 PM PST by SheLion (Please donate to Free Republic. Keep our spirits alive and our friends close.)
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