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Police To Blame IRA Over Raid
BBC News ^ | January 6, 2005 | BBC News

Posted on 01/06/2005 3:27:44 PM PST by FederalistVet

The IRA looks set to be blamed for the £22m bank raid in Belfast when Chief Constable Hugh Orde meets Policing Board members, the BBC has learned. Mr Orde is due to brief senior members of the board about the raid on Friday.

It comes amid growing calls for him to publicly state if the IRA was involved in the robbery at the Northern Bank headquarters on 20 December.

Homes in republican areas of Belfast have been searched, but republicans have said the IRA was not involved.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bbc; ira; northireland
I expect the RUC will give in to the political pressure and blame the IRA within a few days. That will hinder the investigation, of course.
1 posted on 01/06/2005 3:27:45 PM PST by FederalistVet
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To: FederalistVet

No chance it could've just been...hmm...run of the mill criminals. Especially since the Ulsterpukes can't track them down. So in order to not look impotent, as they do, they blame the IRA that hasn't done much of anything in a long, long time and would have little reason to rob a bank to raise money for new operations THEY DON'T NEED TO CARRY OUT.

The guys who used to be the IRA have moved on. They have jobs, homes, and families and since things are getting better, why cause Troubles?


2 posted on 01/06/2005 3:32:28 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: PeterFinn; Happygal

The suspects didn't call for a cab to pick up them and the loot, so UDV aren't suspects.
Hmmmmmmm


3 posted on 01/06/2005 3:41:57 PM PST by investigateworld (( just telling the truth ! ))
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To: FederalistVet

No more RUC. They're the PSNI now and they fought the name change, tooth and nail. You can just imagine what they get called by the locals with initials like that......


4 posted on 01/06/2005 3:43:13 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: PeterFinn

As they say over here, the dogs in the street know it's the IRA. They just took time out from breaking kneecaps and the odd murder. These marxist scumbags are the lowest form life.


5 posted on 01/06/2005 4:26:38 PM PST by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I liked calling them the Royal Ulster Criminals. Too bad the name was changed, right? The old name showed which side of the fence they were on.

It is kind of like preferring rednecks have a confederate flag on their car or truck. At least that way we know who they are and we know not to turn our backs on them, right?


6 posted on 01/06/2005 4:42:15 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: Colosis

It just doesn't make sense for an IRA action. Even if it is some of the IRA Marxists this thing wasn't political - it was just robbery.

Hang 'em for all I care.


7 posted on 01/06/2005 4:48:26 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: PeterFinn; investigateworld; Colosis

This isn't some 'ordinary criminals'...it's an organised gang. And no one does organised crime better in Ireland than the IRA - from video piracy, to contraband smuggling and drug racketeering. Who do you call? Yer friendly neighbourhood Shinner.


8 posted on 01/06/2005 5:30:20 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: FederalistVet

Everyone still knows which side of the fence they're on, believe me. They were forced to make the change, as you probably know, to get rid of the "Royal" in a bit of appeasment during the Good Friday Agreement deliberations. That's okay with the locals. The "bravery" of the Peelers is legendary (not!), so they're known in certain circles as the "Piss Knees".


9 posted on 01/06/2005 5:54:42 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: FederalistVet

This was an inside job, like almost all big heists, and I'm guessing this bank is a Prod institution.


10 posted on 01/06/2005 11:04:50 PM PST by jordan8
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To: PeterFinn

"The guys who used to be the IRA have moved on. They have jobs, homes, and families and since things are getting better, why cause Troubles?"

Pick me up when I stop laughing. The guys who 'used to be in the IRA' are still there. There are still regular 'punishment beatings' meated out. They still run the drug rings, the still bootleg fuel accross the irish border etc. Most are finding the 'new world' not half as exciting, and the job opportunities for someone who spent a lifetime as a terrorist rather limited and nothing like as lucrative. Bank jobs such as this go a long way to 1) giving their members some of the excitement they miss and 2) providing a pension fund for their 'heroes' so they don't have to spend the reminder of their lives working as bus drivers or other such unskilled jobs.

Incidently - the loyalist yobs are no better. A lot of them have now moved lock, stock and barrell to the North West of England and are setting up what can only be described as mafia like operations there. Johny Adair is released from Prison any day now and it looks pretty certain he will head straight over the water to Bolton to pick up his thuggery there.

I am slightly perturbed at some of the undertones of sympathy in some of these messages for terrorists.


11 posted on 01/06/2005 11:15:55 PM PST by Brit_Guy
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To: Brit_Guy

No sympathies here. My point is that the ideologues who were in a "political struggle" are gone. All that is left are the bastards who used the politics as an excuse to justify barbarism and acts of criminal opportunity.

Send them to America.

Why?

Because we have a death penalty.


12 posted on 01/07/2005 8:09:08 AM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: FederalistVet

We need to crackdown on the Catholics. Has the Vatican condemned this yet? They are complicit if they haven't. < /sarcasm >


13 posted on 01/07/2005 8:10:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Happygal

Actually, there are four protestant terrorist groups operating in North Ireland to every one Irish terrorist group. I think the protestant terrorist groups do it a whole lot better than the IRA afterall the protestant terrorist groups and the protestant political parties that have close ties to the protestant terrorist groups have the local police in the palm of their hands. See new post for confirmation.


14 posted on 01/07/2005 4:03:55 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: FederalistVet

"Actually, there are four protestant terrorist groups operating in North Ireland to every one Irish terrorist group."

Duh. Almost cetainly true. The IRA has a membership in the many, many thousands. The loyalist gangs (of which there are several) number at best in the hundereds each and are as happy to murder each other as catholics. But your point was?


15 posted on 01/07/2005 4:16:00 PM PST by Brit_Guy
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To: Brit_Guy

Shouldn't we be demanding Paisley and the gangs tied to his party decommision too?


16 posted on 01/07/2005 5:24:55 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: FederalistVet

Absolutley. Paisley is a monster. I think it is clear though that any pretence of 'political' purpose to the loyalist gangs is long since gone. They are simply now mafia like operations (and like I say they are moving over to the North of England and making life a misery here).

The truth is the IRA are going the same way. The scary thing is that the IRA is far more 'professional' in the way it does everything - internal discipline, intelligence gathering, explosives knowledge etc. and its military capability in terms of the arms it was given by Libya remain awesome. As the political motivated members gravitate towards careers in Sinn Fein and mainstream politics - the 'Army' remains ripe to be taken over by mafiosa thugs. That is what we are watching now. We cannot have a normal society in Northern Ireland until all sides agree to decommision.


17 posted on 01/08/2005 1:45:03 AM PST by Brit_Guy
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To: FederalistVet

Incidently, just in case you think calls for giving up arms are all one way (which is the impression you give in your question)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4010767.stm


18 posted on 01/08/2005 1:50:21 AM PST by Brit_Guy
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To: Brit_Guy

The important thing is that the IRA has decommisioned most of its weapons and the Protestants still want to walk out of the peace process. Likewise, the Protestants have not decommissioned their weapons and there likely will be no verification that they do. Even if the Protestants decommision their weapons the British Army is still there and the Protestants control the police force.

Britain purchased the helicopters now Britain must force the Protestants to adhere to the good friday agreement or return the helicopters.

You don't comprehend the consequences of a Protestant walk out. They will be giving the upper hand to the people in America who favor violence. A Protestant walk out expands the conflict to the United States and Canada. (Probably Mexico too, but I'm not certain.)


19 posted on 01/08/2005 5:33:01 AM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: Brit_Guy

Send them to Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia. They'll fit in pretty well.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 5:35:11 AM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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