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1 posted on 01/06/2005 11:15:43 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

"Gratitude is not necessary. God will bless us, every one. That's enough for any Christian or Jew."

There's an Arab proverb:
"If you see a blind beggar by the side of the road, kick him. Why should you treat him better than Allah did?"

These degenerates have nothing in common with Christians and Jews, because they worship a different god. Gratitude to their fellow man is no more a moslem value than honesty or integrity is.


2 posted on 01/06/2005 11:21:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kattracks

Good points, but I don't expect any lasting gratitude or love
for the US from these people for US efforts on their behalf.


3 posted on 01/06/2005 11:23:19 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: kattracks
Normally I agree with Mr. Pruden, but I think he's wrong here.

Those poor ba****** on the receiving end of American aid supplied by the US Military are going to remember who gave them what for a long, long time.

If anyone in this Administration has any talent for long term thinking, there are already a few CIA types hanging out with the locals making sure that kids get food, medicine, and warm clothes.

A few Green Beret teams wouldn't be a bad idea either, especially if they have local language skills.

We don't have to reach all of these people, we only have to reach enough of them who realize that what they've been hearing in their mosques is mostly bull****.

Their Imams are screaming 'death to America' while the US Navy is flying in food, water, and medical supplies. I'll lay you dollars to donuts that pretty soon some Islamofascist whackjob Imam is going to 'forbid' anyone from taking American aid.

That will hopefully be the straw that breaks the water buffalos back.

Wow, I must be feeling optomistic tonite. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be back to normal in the morning.

L

4 posted on 01/06/2005 11:35:20 PM PST by Lurker ("I answer to you, 'F*** you-I shall die on my feet.!" Oriana Fallaci.)
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To: kattracks

I would imagine the Moslems will only than Christians and Jews with the notion that the USA OWES them relief because the USA is the USA.

We should harbor no illusions, after this is over the initial stages, they will hate us and even resent us more. They will resent us for being the ones who helped them.


BTW has anyone else noticed how Rumsfeld's military makover is responsible for the ability of our forces to be able to respond to this situation? If this was Carter or Clinton in charge the military would have been impotent.


6 posted on 01/06/2005 11:53:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
12 posted on 01/07/2005 8:05:23 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: kattracks; SJackson; Salem

"But Christians and Jews at the White House are whistlin' Dixie (ever so discreetly, of course) if they think the vast outpouring of American tsunami aid will win any hearts or change many minds. ... Gratitude is not necessary. God will bless us, every one. That's enough for any Christian or Jew."

Amen! The Christians and Jews that came forth with aid to help the tsunami victims may never be thanked on this earth, but the One who sees everything will remember and He will give the reward to those who helped.


13 posted on 01/07/2005 8:26:55 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: kattracks; Alamo-Girl

This is an account from a Freeperette in Indonesia::

Hi you all!

Thank you so much for your concern and prayers.... As you can see, I'm alive and doing pretty well, although it hasn't all been easy.

I arrived in Malaysia on December 19th, and we were in Kuala Lumpur for the first couple days, for orientation. The first thing you notice when coming here is the extreme heat and humidity... I'm used to hot weather (mostly having lived in hot places), but the humidity I wasn't used to... even after being in Hawaii for 3 months!

Then we took a bus to Penang, and we found out that our itinerary had changed. Originally we were supposed to go to Medan Indonesia, a couple days after getting to Penang. (to be for Christmas and for 2 weeks) But they thought that it would be better if we had time to adjust and get settled in, so the trip to Indonesia was postponed til January 8. My family and close friends were worried because they didn't know that my plans had been changed, and they didn't know if I even survived. Believe it or not, my mom knew about the earthquake before I did... because I didn't even feel it here in Malaysia (some of our teammates did), and she must've been watching the news, and called the office here, right after it happened.

It probably was a Godsend that our plans had changed, and as it turned out, there was a lot of need here in Penang... pretty much all the little houses and shacks on the coast were either destroyed or flooded from the tsunami, and tons of people needed help. So we did a lot of work down on the coast, in this area, picking up people's belongings (which mostly became trash, and were caked in mud), shoveling debris and wet sand from the street drains, and picking up all sorts of trash and people's belongings that were strewn all over the beaches. The place was a disaster area, and lots of people lost everything they owned. It was hard and dirty work, but we wanted to show God's love to those affected by the tsunami, and it was worth it.

There was one Malaysian man, whose house was destroyed, and we found out that he had divorced his first wife because she became a Christian. Then his kids and second wife began going to church, and he was totally against Christianity. But he saw that pretty much the only people who volunteered to pick up the wreckage at the beach were Christians, local churches, and I was told something by a local pastor that was awesome to hear... The pastor told me that the man saw me shoveling mud, and he was touched, by seeing us helping, and his mind was changed about Christianity. So I heard that this man is coming to Christ, praise God! (this is someone who was opposed to Christianity, so it's amazing news) Btw, I remember when I was shoveling a Malaysian man who lived in one of the homes that was destroyed asked me where I was from, and I told him I was from California and I was there with a Christian organization. So maybe that was the man the pastor was talking about..

There's a lot more to tell, but I'm going to post some pictures now of the flood... these were taken by someone on our team, a Norwegian kid with his video camera... a few on our team were there the day that one of the big waves hit, so the shots you'll see are from that day, and you can see some of the wreckage.
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So, it is clear, and not just from news, that Christians acting like Christians will show the love of God in Christ.


16 posted on 01/07/2005 9:13:51 AM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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