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Has U.S. threatened to vaporize Mecca?
World Net Daily ^ | 1-7-05

Posted on 01/07/2005 12:32:37 AM PST by hope

to vaporize Mecca?

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Friday, January 7, 2005



Has U.S. threatened
to vaporize Mecca?

Intelligence expert says nuke option is reason bin Laden has been quiet


Posted: January 7, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Why hasn't Osama bin Laden's terror network executed an attack on U.S. soil since 9-11?

Simple, says Dr. Jack Wheeler, creator of an acclaimed intelligence website dubbed "the oasis for rational conservatives": The U.S. has threatened to nuke the Muslim holy city of Mecca should the terror leader strike America again.

On his website, To the Point, Wheeler explains how the Bush administration has identified the potential of wiping Mecca off the map as bin Laden's ultimate point of vulnerability – the Damoclean Sword hanging over his head.

"Israel … recognizes that the Aswan Dam is Egypt's Damoclean Sword," writes Wheeler. "There is no possibility whatever of Egypt's winning a war with Israel, for if Aswan is blown, all of inhabited Egypt is under 20 feet of water. Once the Israelis made this clear to the Egyptians, the possibility of any future Egyptian attack on Israel like that of 1948, 1967, and 1972 is gone."

Wheeler says talk of bin Laden's Damoclean Sword has infiltrated the Beltway.

Writes Wheeler in his members-only column: "There has been a rumor floating in the Washington ether for some time now that George Bush has figured out what Sword of Damocles is suspended over Osama bin Laden's head. It's whispered among Capitol Hill staffers on the intel and armed services committees; White House NSC (National Security Council) members clam up tight if you begin to hint at it; and State Department neo-cons love to give their liberal counterparts cardiac arrhythmia by elliptically conversing about it in their presence.

"The whispers and hints and ellipses are getting louder now because the rumor explains the inexplicable: Why hasn't there been a repeat of 9-11? How can it be that after this unimaginable tragedy and Osama's constant threats of another, we have gone over three years without a single terrorist attack on American soil?"

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler ends his column by explaining the effectiveness of the Mecca threat.

"Completely obliterating the terrorists' holiest of holies, rendering what is for them the world's most sacred spot a radioactive hole in the ground is retribution of biblical proportions – and those are the only proportions that will do the job.

"Osama would have laughed off such a threat, given his view that Americans are wussies who cut and run after a few losses, such as Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993. Part of Bush's rationale for invading Afghanistan and Iraq – obviously never expressed publicly – was to convince Osama that his threat to nuke Mecca was real. Osama hates America just as much as ever, but he is laughing no more."

Wheeler says bin Laden is "playing poker with a Texas cowboy holding the nuclear aces," so there's nothing al-Qaida could do that could come remotely close to risking obliterating Mecca.

Writes Wheeler: "So far, Osama has decided not to see if GW is bluffing. Smart move."


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; falsegod; islam; mecca; moongod; moronsonparade; muslim; rockworshippers; terrorism; terrorist
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To: Darkwolf377

"I think it's pretty vague seeing how we've only heard one rumor about it. But I prefer a more direct approach: Dropping Ted Kennedy out of an airplane on a pre-selected target."

If you light a match near his mouth prior to impact, he'd be better than a MOAB.


261 posted on 01/07/2005 11:03:54 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

(s)How about we just capture the meteor rock in the kabbaa and have some fun. (/s)


262 posted on 01/07/2005 11:07:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

That's crazy--you wanna knock the planet out of orbit?!


263 posted on 01/07/2005 11:08:14 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Annoying wussies since 1965)
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To: APFel
A unprovoked nuclear attack against Mecca would go down as one of the vilest, evil acts ever foisted against mankind and would be told and retold for countless lifetimes. Our civilization as we know it would be condemned, vilified, and would be dead within a few generations from internal strife and external influences.

Any President who used nukes in a situation like this would be impeached, tried and perhaps executed. And rightfully so.

FR is full of Nucular (mispelling intentional)Cowboys who think the solution to every foreign policy question is a mushroom cloud.

Thankfully, none of them are allowed anywhere near the levers of power. The President and his advisors understand the real world, unlike some of the yahoos on FR.

264 posted on 01/07/2005 11:11:06 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Modernman
We are in a war and have failed to even identify who the enemy is. Islam and it's leaders have declared war on us and have attacked and will continue to attack but we have not only failed in targeting the enemy and his resources we are afraid to even call him [islam and islamic leaders] the enemy.
265 posted on 01/07/2005 11:19:30 AM PST by free_life
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To: A CA Guy; oldcomputerguy
"...... the Middle East has always and ONLY respected and feared great power."

During the Gulf War, The United States supposedly had Neutron Bombs ready to be used against Iraq.

Did President Bush 1 call up Sad-dam and say: "I have all these F-16's with Neutron bombs attached stationed on your borders and I will use them on you if you use chemical and biological weapons against my troops"?

Did Sad-dam fear great power, we may never know. apparently he did not use biological or chemical weapons on our troops.

If rumors or threats are used to protect our troops and/or people, I have no problem with that.

266 posted on 01/07/2005 11:19:40 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: free_life

I want to correct what I said about using nukes. Nukes are to extreme to use at this point but conventional missiles should take out Mecca, Medina, and all the top Islamic religious leaders world wide that are behind this war of terrorism against us.

We need to target the real enemy and hurt him now.


267 posted on 01/07/2005 11:25:42 AM PST by free_life
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To: free_life
"We need to target the real enemy and hurt him now."

Great idea, but I think there are laws against physically hurting Liberals and the MSM here in The United States.

268 posted on 01/07/2005 11:33:27 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: TYVets

I agree.


269 posted on 01/07/2005 11:36:24 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Darkwolf377

"That's crazy--you wanna knock the planet out of orbit?!"

[Lower head in shame] I have contemplated dabbling with forces beyond my comprehension.


270 posted on 01/07/2005 11:40:16 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: Moderate right-winger
Nuking Mecca won't accomplish anything, except alienate almost all the Muslims in the world.

It totally obliterates one of their pillars of their faith, making it obvious that the religion is not backed by God, since God did not protect it and they are only left with 4 pillars unless they want to glow in the dark.

Nuking Mecca does a lot in the fight against islam, not only does it let muslims know their religion is false it plainly puts forward that they are toast if they mess with the West. It is what has happened over and over throughout history when islam is on the march and the West or others have put a stop to its march.....something so horrific is done that it scares the living daylights out of them thus stopping the march for a century or so until it is forgotten.

The only problem I see is in believing that the State Department or any part of the US government has the gumption to go through with this plan.....FAT CHANCE.

271 posted on 01/07/2005 11:40:24 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: free_life

Neutron bombs [actually cobolt] would be the way to go, if we ever get extreme. We definitely need that potential. FReegards....


272 posted on 01/07/2005 11:41:43 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: Lady Heron
"The only problem I see is in believing that the State Department or any part of the US government has the gumption to go through with this plan.....FAT CHANCE."

Wanna make a bet?

273 posted on 01/07/2005 11:44:33 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: hope

BTTT


274 posted on 01/07/2005 11:52:46 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Atlantic Friend
And frankly, I doubt OBL is that much a religious man - if he's still alive. He just obeys whatever verses of the Quran suit his murderous purpose, quietly put aside the rest, and really worships only his madness.

This is the kind of sick guy that does not need Mecca, or Medina. Strip him of the jihadi rhetoric and he's just a deranged murderer.

It is very obvious that you have not studied islam, because in islam he is a better muslim that those who are not out fighting jihad against non-muslim. He has not picked through the verses to decide which are the ones he should follow, he is following the path set forth in the koran for the muslim who wants to be the best muslim he can be.

If you stripped him of islam then there would sit a peaceful man intent on pleasing God through some other religion (unless he found Cannibalism, Thugyism or Satanism). This is the type of man who needs Mecca the most because with out it the knows there is no islam because one of the pillars of the faith is gone and almighty God did nothing to protect his faith.

Unless you are willing to become a muslim then you need to understand the threat it is to your freedoms....past Europeans have understood this threat all to well and being politically correct will not save you.

275 posted on 01/07/2005 12:02:59 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: hope

I hope we have.


276 posted on 01/07/2005 12:10:00 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: hope

Mecca Lecca High Mecca Hiney Ho!

Nuke em


277 posted on 01/07/2005 12:11:44 PM PST by Vaquero
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To: Wallace T.
However, the 20th Century persecution of Jews was conducted by the Nazis, whose leadership was neo-pagan and occultist, and opposed to traditional Christianity. Numerous Christian clergy and active lay people were persecuted or executed under Hitler's regime....

Your statement is quite accurate as far as it goes, and you have correctly reminded us that the Nazi leadership's idea of being gottglaeubig, a believer -- a requirement for membership in the SS -- was very different from that of traditional German Christianity, a point never lost on German conscientious resisters.

However, Daniel Goldhagen has shown that the Nazis involved many Germans who would not have accepted their Barbarossa-cult buncombe in Nazi crimes. One of Goldhagen's most notorious examples was the shooting party the SS organized for the membership of the Berlin Philharmonic, who would have been said before the war to have stood at the acme of German and European culture.

We have been informed by ordinary Iraqis that Saddam Hussein used this same technique extensively, ordering his werewolves to coerce unwilling Iraqis to participate in his programmatic atrocities to "get them dirty," to bind them to the regime with a shared criminality, and to compromise their moral vision of themselves, thus evaporating the moral distance between the oppressed and the oppressor. The effectiveness of his technique of accessorizing his subjects is shown in part by the bitter-end ferocity of the Iraqi Ba'athist resistance since the fall of Baghdad.

Secondly, keep in mind that neopagan Nazi antisemitism built on centuries of garden-variety Christian antisemitism, which was common in Christian writing even before the coming of the Black Death. The Stella Maris, composed by an English monk, contained several antisemitic compositions that were not merely incidentally, but pointedly condemnatory of Jews and Judaism. As Christian theologian Hans Kueng has pointed out,

Nazi anti-Judaism was the work of godless, anti-Christian criminals. But it would not have been possible without the almost two thousand years' pre-history of 'Christian' anti-Judaism...

278 posted on 01/07/2005 12:13:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Lady Heron
....unless he found Cannibalism, Thugyism or Satanism...

I believe the cult was called Thuggee. Queen Victoria's governors turned them into basket-weavers, and forbade them to go around strangling people.

279 posted on 01/07/2005 12:16:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: johnmilken

How would you threaten Bin laden from attacking the US again?


280 posted on 01/07/2005 12:29:23 PM PST by rudypoot
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