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Has U.S. threatened to vaporize Mecca?
World Net Daily ^ | 1-7-05

Posted on 01/07/2005 12:32:37 AM PST by hope

to vaporize Mecca?

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Friday, January 7, 2005



Has U.S. threatened
to vaporize Mecca?

Intelligence expert says nuke option is reason bin Laden has been quiet


Posted: January 7, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Why hasn't Osama bin Laden's terror network executed an attack on U.S. soil since 9-11?

Simple, says Dr. Jack Wheeler, creator of an acclaimed intelligence website dubbed "the oasis for rational conservatives": The U.S. has threatened to nuke the Muslim holy city of Mecca should the terror leader strike America again.

On his website, To the Point, Wheeler explains how the Bush administration has identified the potential of wiping Mecca off the map as bin Laden's ultimate point of vulnerability – the Damoclean Sword hanging over his head.

"Israel … recognizes that the Aswan Dam is Egypt's Damoclean Sword," writes Wheeler. "There is no possibility whatever of Egypt's winning a war with Israel, for if Aswan is blown, all of inhabited Egypt is under 20 feet of water. Once the Israelis made this clear to the Egyptians, the possibility of any future Egyptian attack on Israel like that of 1948, 1967, and 1972 is gone."

Wheeler says talk of bin Laden's Damoclean Sword has infiltrated the Beltway.

Writes Wheeler in his members-only column: "There has been a rumor floating in the Washington ether for some time now that George Bush has figured out what Sword of Damocles is suspended over Osama bin Laden's head. It's whispered among Capitol Hill staffers on the intel and armed services committees; White House NSC (National Security Council) members clam up tight if you begin to hint at it; and State Department neo-cons love to give their liberal counterparts cardiac arrhythmia by elliptically conversing about it in their presence.

"The whispers and hints and ellipses are getting louder now because the rumor explains the inexplicable: Why hasn't there been a repeat of 9-11? How can it be that after this unimaginable tragedy and Osama's constant threats of another, we have gone over three years without a single terrorist attack on American soil?"

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler ends his column by explaining the effectiveness of the Mecca threat.

"Completely obliterating the terrorists' holiest of holies, rendering what is for them the world's most sacred spot a radioactive hole in the ground is retribution of biblical proportions – and those are the only proportions that will do the job.

"Osama would have laughed off such a threat, given his view that Americans are wussies who cut and run after a few losses, such as Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993. Part of Bush's rationale for invading Afghanistan and Iraq – obviously never expressed publicly – was to convince Osama that his threat to nuke Mecca was real. Osama hates America just as much as ever, but he is laughing no more."

Wheeler says bin Laden is "playing poker with a Texas cowboy holding the nuclear aces," so there's nothing al-Qaida could do that could come remotely close to risking obliterating Mecca.

Writes Wheeler: "So far, Osama has decided not to see if GW is bluffing. Smart move."


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; falsegod; islam; mecca; moongod; moronsonparade; muslim; rockworshippers; terrorism; terrorist
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To: Paul_Denton

We won't let a second attack happen to us. All the responsible parties will be wiped out. The irony is, they would want that to happen, so as to hasten "paradise". There is no such thing as negotiations with irrational fanatics, as Hamas had shown. Let nuking Mecca though be a last resort= that is, if most of the Muslims started calling for our blood, including the moderates.


61 posted on 01/07/2005 1:20:14 AM PST by Moderate right-winger (We won 2004! Now, win '06 and '08!)
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To: blogbat

Excellent post, my friend.


62 posted on 01/07/2005 1:21:06 AM PST by broadsword (The difference between Charles Manson and Mohamed is... exactly... WHAT?)
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To: hope

To whom, precisly, did we communicate this messege?

Do we know where B.L. is?


63 posted on 01/07/2005 1:21:51 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (I can no longer discern real stories from satire on this site. America is losing her common sense.)
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To: Moderate right-winger
"Nuking Mecca presents unknown dangers, like wading in uncharted territory. Nuking a terrorist state's capital is realistic. Think how Japan reacted after we crippled their two cities. On the other hand, had we hit the imperial palace and killed their emperor, they would have fought to death and all the Japanese would have kept on fighting us. Remember the parallelisms."

Actually I disagree - the only reason we spared the Emperor was that we needed him to help rebuild Japan. Trust me, had they continued to fight, we would have systematically obliterated them. If you don't think that was our policy when we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then you went to a bad public school, amigo. Japan was, by the way, also "uncharted territory", so that argument is specious.
64 posted on 01/07/2005 1:22:48 AM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: Moderate right-winger
...that is, if most of the Muslims started calling for our blood, including the moderates.

Uhm... the "moderate Muslims" ARE calling for our blood by funding and quietly cheering on the so-called radicals.
65 posted on 01/07/2005 1:22:59 AM PST by broadsword (The difference between Charles Manson and Mohamed is... exactly... WHAT?)
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To: broadsword

Fair enough, but I don't believe this guy's ideas are limited to F.R. From the story it appears the plan is making the rounds in some rather rarified air.

If you think it would be best to pull our troops out of Iraq and give up, then I'd suggest we do that, before voicing plans such as these. Once that's done, I guess the plan is to nuke our way to world peace.

I'm not convinced that is the best idea I've ever heard of.

The rest of the world would turn on us like a mother at a pedofile convention. And once started, we'd pretty much have to complete the job or face the billions that weren't taken out in the first attack.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, but give me a rational explanation for how you think this would have a lasting positive outcome.

About all I see is us driving the rest of the world into the Moslem camp. I will also tell you that this nation is headed into very tough times in the next twenty or so years, as China overtakes us and surpasses our ability to keep up with it militarily, due to our economy only being about one third to one half of theirs.


66 posted on 01/07/2005 1:23:25 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: Moderate right-winger
"Until then we stay the course and keep on eradicating terrorist threats around the world."

Agreed, but remember The United States, Britain, Israel and other good guys have big cards they have not played so far.

67 posted on 01/07/2005 1:23:29 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Eurotwit
"bin laden is what he is because of Islam, and he is a major threat because of the faith in Islam that is shared by hundreds upon hundreds millions of his fellow muslims."

Personally, I'd say he uses that faith and twists it for his nefarious purposes. Threatening to nuke Mecca wouldn't stop him. Nuking Mecca wouldn't stop him. Killing him and his AQ group is the only option - just my 2 cents, of course.
68 posted on 01/07/2005 1:24:03 AM PST by Atlantic Friend
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To: Moderate right-winger

Nuking Mecca won't accomplish anything, except alienate almost all the Muslims in the world.



it would accomplish GREAT things.
Islam would be exposed as the LIE and a false religion.
100's of millions of islamists would lose faith and convert to Christianity or Judaism, as the remaining monotheistic religions of choice...

and the imams and the sheiks would be purged in violence for inflicting mortal hell on living subjects for over a thousand years of injustice.

Islam would completely self decimate and be extinct in less than a decade. False Gods historically die like that. Convert or die.

And it will very likely happen. And it will be in our lifetimes. And it may not even be the USA or the Jews who teach allah's idiots the 'lesson'. Allah, is a lie.

The sooner they find out, the more lives it will save.
Probably more than several hundred million, over the next three decades. Take out the root, and the poison tree, will dry up in days. It's really a humane choice. Very compassionate.

as far as your 'dont want to alienate muslims' I got news for you mr moderate. They maintain themselves in a permanent state of 'alienation', 'victimhood', and 'serial humiliation;' as this is both the fruit and the core of their phony faith. Expose the lie, and truth will prevail.

saving lives, by cratering their false god, will wake more than a few of them up. wait and see.


69 posted on 01/07/2005 1:26:23 AM PST by recalcitrant
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To: hope
bin Laden is "playing poker with a Texas cowboy holding the nuclear aces"

LOL!

70 posted on 01/07/2005 1:26:39 AM PST by ppaul
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not trying to be confrontational, but give me a rational explanation for how you think this would have a lasting positive outcome.

Well, FRiend, that was not the tack I was taking, but, OK, I'll bite for the sake of argument.

Islam is on the march against human civilization. This is a fight to the death, make no mistake. The fact is that the "holy" Koran clearly states that Mecca will never be conquered or destroyed because Allah (pig $hit be upon him) protects it.

If we turned their holy, unconquerable Mecca into a glowing crater, it might take the wind out of their sails. IOW they just might lose a lot of their stupid, blustering impetus to offer the last infidel the tender choice of a prayer rug or a coffin. Their primitive death cult might be exposed for the fraud that it is.
71 posted on 01/07/2005 1:29:23 AM PST by broadsword (The difference between Charles Manson and Mohamed is... exactly... WHAT?)
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To: Atlantic Friend
Personally, I'd say he uses that faith and twists it for his nefarious purposes.

You can only say this because YOU HAVE NOT READ THE KORAN.
72 posted on 01/07/2005 1:30:42 AM PST by broadsword (The difference between Charles Manson and Mohamed is... exactly... WHAT?)
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To: TYVets

I know for sure that Israel has Mecca in it's sights, just in case the Saudis try something nefarious. That's why these countries were so afraid to face Israel head-on. More so with us. But these fanatics will never learn and thus, this war will only end with the Muslim world coming to its senses. When will that be, I don't know for sure.


73 posted on 01/07/2005 1:30:54 AM PST by Moderate right-winger (We won 2004! Now, win '06 and '08!)
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To: Atlantic Friend

Nuking mecca WOULD show him to be a liar and all his followers as fools and denon strate allah to be the lie, which it is. It WOULD change their reality and throw them into turmoil that would allow them to pursue freedom, free thinking, reject totalitarian religionism, and overthrow all mullaha and imams, thus opening the door for other 'truths' to come in.

Your compassion on Islamic religious shrines is admirable, heartfelt and unfortunately misspent as it keeps them all in a delusional state. Destroy the root, and the poison tree will wither in days. Plant fruitful trees in it's place and the people will flock to the feast of reality and truth.


74 posted on 01/07/2005 1:33:05 AM PST by recalcitrant
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To: Darkwolf377

Our threats should remain vague and gloomy. Let them wonder. All Bush needs to do now is speak kindness and let actions be the threats. He's time tested. Speak softly, and carry a big stick.


75 posted on 01/07/2005 1:35:43 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: recalcitrant

Very thoughtful post.


76 posted on 01/07/2005 1:35:52 AM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: recalcitrant

We could do better by further pounding military installations but most importantly, decreasing the funding for these Arab "states". They go into the pockets of terrorists anyway, or at least a significant amount of that.


77 posted on 01/07/2005 1:36:07 AM PST by Moderate right-winger (We won 2004! Now, win '06 and '08!)
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To: broadsword

"You can only say this because YOU HAVE NOT READ THE KORAN."

And how do you KNOW that Broadsword has not read the Koran? Do you have an eye on your forehead?


78 posted on 01/07/2005 1:38:04 AM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: Atlantic Friend

Your 2 cents are appreciated :-)

Cheers.


79 posted on 01/07/2005 1:39:41 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Dallas59

Actually wahhabism is known for is disregard for "holy places". I think a wahhabist would not care much if we did it.


80 posted on 01/07/2005 1:41:55 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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