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There Will Be A Report, But Was There an Investigation?
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Posted on 01/07/2005 6:34:19 AM PST by StoneGiant

There Will Be A Report, But Was There an Investigation?

More than three months after they were appointed to investigate the peddling of fake documents on President Bush's National Guard service by 60 Minutes, Dick Thornburgh and Louis Boccardi are expected to release their report tomorrow. I have no doubt there will be a report; I have no idea whether there was actually an investigation.

There is a story to be told here: a story about how CBS coordinated its attack on President Bush with the Democratic National Committee; a story about how fake documents were put into the hands of a mentally ill, obsessively anti-Bush crank named Bill Burkett; a story about how Burkett (if he can be believed) not only got the documents into the hands of 60 Minutes, but also into the hands of the Kerry campaign, via Max Cleland; a story about how left-wing CBS producer Mary Mapes pursued the Bush National Guard "story" for five years, beginning when he was Governor of Texas, without finding anything worth reporting until the fake documents came along; a story about how 60 Minutes was warned that the documents appeared to be fakes, but published them anyway; a story about how CBS relied on interviews with people who had neither met President Bush nor seen the documents, like Robert Strong, but carefully avoided talking to the key witnesses who actually had knowledge of relevant events, like Gen. "Buck" Staudt. Whom, by the way, they carelessly slandered in their broadcast.

But I doubt whether Thornburgh and Boccardi will tell that story. To conduct this investigation, you needed an investigator. An old-fashioned investigator who would go to Texas, track down Bill Burkett, and persuade him to talk. Who would immerse himself in the corrupt politics of Travis County, Texas, and pursue leads on who created the forgeries. Who would demand to see Mary Mapes' telephone records for the last two years, and track down every number she called. Who would make witnesses like Max Cleland either answer questions, or go on record as refusing to talk. Who would, in short, investigate.

CBS didn't employ an investigator. They employed a couple of distinguished 70-year-old gentlemen: exactly the wrong sort of people. Maybe Thornburgh and Boccardi had the sense to hire investigators, but I doubt it. My guess is that their "investigation" consisted essentially of interviewing CBS employees. At one point, I saw a news item where they proudly announced that they had talked to 36 CBS employees. Wow. What they needed to do was forget about CBS for a while, and go to Texas. If they only talked to CBS people, they would inevitably come away with the impression that 60 Minutes was well-intentioned but regrettably failed to be sufficiently critical of the documents' authenticity, and therefore fell for a possible hoax.

I say "possible" because I doubt that the Thornburgh/Boccardi report will draw any conclusion about the documents' falsity. I suspect that they will be agnostic about the documents, much as Mr. Pein was in his recent Columbia Journalism Review article. If I'm right, the report will be useless.

The fundamental question here is whether CBS was the victim of a hoax, or the perpetrator of a hoax. It has been our view for a long time that Rather and his colleagues were perpetrators, not victims, in part because the documents were such obvious fakes that it strains credulity to suppose that they were actually fooled. When you read the Thornburgy/Boccardi report, keep that question constantly in mind: victim, or perpetrator?

There are lots of problems with CBS's effort to portray itself as the victim of a hoax, but perhaps the most intractable is Dan Rather's personal vouching for the documents. Trust me, he said to America. I know they're authentic. They came from an unimpeachable source. That takes CBS out of the category of victim, and into the category of perpetrator.

As a trial lawyer, there are lots of witnesses I'd love to cross-examine and lots of questions I'd love to ask. On Hugh Hewitt's show tonight, I said that the first one would be of Dan Rather: On what basis did you personally guarantee that the documents were authentic? What source did you describe as "unimpeachable"? Why? If the source was Bill Burkett, it is hard to imagine anyone more impeachable. Maybe Rather was just lying, trying to brazen it out until after the election, so that his last "contribution" would be the election of John Kerry. Or maybe--this is my own idea, just a wild hunch--the source that Rather thought was "unimpeachable" was Max Cleland. But, of course, he couldn't admit this afterward, as the story unravelled, because his paramount concern was not to admit the coordination between CBS and the Kerry campaign.

If Thornburgh and Boccardi didn't ask these questions, and if the answers aren't clearly laid out in their report, what they did wasn't an investigation. It was a cover-up.

Enough speculation. Tomorrow, the report--and we'll let you know what we think of it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 01/07/2005 6:34:20 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant
If I'm right, the report will be useless.

You ain't wrong.

2 posted on 01/07/2005 6:37:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: StoneGiant
"The fundamental question here is whether CBS was the victim of a hoax, or the perpetrator of a hoax.

IMO This is the real issue here. The fact that these documents were so obviously fraudulent would make CBS the perpetrator or, at the least, a co-conspirator in the promulgation of this hoax.

4 posted on 01/07/2005 6:38:27 AM PST by drt1
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To: StoneGiant

DR was certainly the main perpetrator in this
fiasco, but do not forget Mary Mapes hand in
it all.


5 posted on 01/07/2005 6:45:09 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Baynative
... and that Sandy Berger thing. How's that one coming?

Good question. Perhaps the information's already been posted....


6 posted on 01/07/2005 6:46:00 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant

Once the "report" is published, CBS becomes fair game
for any criminal investigator on the planet. Fear not....someone will be writing an expose in the form
of a book!

My question relates to the why's and outcomes of CBS's
Honchos going to Washington DC this past week.


7 posted on 01/07/2005 6:47:40 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: StoneGiant
Investigation?! Heck, these people won't even issue a retraction.
8 posted on 01/07/2005 6:49:02 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: drt1
I REALLY want to see this taken to its fullest extent - investigation all the way to prosecution.

This kind of thing is one of the biggest threats to our republic and should be dealt with accordingly..

9 posted on 01/07/2005 6:49:11 AM PST by Sweet Southern Freedom
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To: StoneGiant
The nice thing about all this is, we used to have a hunch that CBS was making it up as they went along.

Now we have proof.

10 posted on 01/07/2005 6:50:26 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: drt1
The fact that these documents were so obviously fraudulent would make CBS the perpetrator or, at the least, a co-conspirator in the promulgation of this hoax.

Starting with the TANG address ... P.O. Box 23456 on the header. CBS simply was leading the way in the MSM's attempt to derail Bush's reelection bid. Bush came out of the Republican convention with a big bump, unlike Kerry, and at that point the liberal media went to full throttle Bush bashing mode.

11 posted on 01/07/2005 6:52:35 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Izzy Dunne
If I'm right, the report will be useless.

Bird cage material, so not totally useless.... :-)

12 posted on 01/07/2005 6:53:01 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: StoneGiant

Here's what it comes down to. If the report and investigation are useless, shareholders have a legal claim, and potential criminal charges may be pursued.

Under both Sarbanes Oxley, and several SEC legal grounds, whoever is responsible for the investigation could end up in a Federal "Hotel" just like Martha Stewart.

Martha Stewart's situation was NOT assessed through Sarbanes Oxley, AND one of the key issues against Martha Stewart was her public statements that misled investors.

CBS COULD END UP GUILTY OF THE SAME THINGS!

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13 posted on 01/07/2005 6:53:29 AM PST by woodb01 (Re-Designed ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: woodb01

Would anyone hire a couple of 70 year old retirees to hunt down a story like this ? Only if they wanted it swept under the rug...


14 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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To: StoneGiant

All these excellent points by Powerline will be ignored and swept under the rug by all the liberal MSM as they rush to exonerate CBS and Rather's Radical Recking Crew.

Don't believe for a second that they will point out any holes in either methodology or conclusions--or in the ability of the geriatric 'investigators' to arrive at a conclusion that whitewashes the whole sorry mess.


15 posted on 01/07/2005 7:17:46 AM PST by wildbill
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To: StoneGiant
Some mistakes were made, but all in good faith. Dan Rather was totally above board. If there was any flaw in his actions, it was only because he has a passionate, almost obsessive, desire to get to the bottom of his story. There was absolutely no evidence that bias was involved in any way.

Some low level editor has been let go, but has since found a higher paying job at a CBS affiliate.

The things said about Bush were most likely true, so this scandal in no way tarnishes Dan Rather's stellar career.

16 posted on 01/07/2005 7:17:52 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Static_Kafka
The whole CBS debacle has been ridiculous, the time and money spent by republicans to blame Democrats for these documents.

You are definitely too stupid to be on this website. This phoney investigation was paid for by CBS, not republicans or taxpayers.

I guess you like your “news” manufactured, but most of us consider such blatant attempts to influence a presidential election unethical. Of course, as a liberal, you are not familiar with the concept of ethical. You most likely voted for a known rapist. Twice.

18 posted on 01/07/2005 7:25:08 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Dick Thornburg before he Dicks you.


19 posted on 01/07/2005 7:28:09 AM PST by Angry Enough
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To: StoneGiant

Darn, I did a search and came up with nothing so I posted this , too. Is this article on the money or not? This investigation will prove to be the "powerful protecting the powerful", an O'Really theme with which I agree.


20 posted on 01/07/2005 7:33:08 AM PST by izzatzo
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