Posted on 01/07/2005 9:46:41 PM PST by MissouriConservative
Obviously you haven't read a thing I've said because you'll never find me saying that, either directly or indirectly.
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"US law requires hospitals to treat patients with life-threatening illnesses regardless of immigration status... "
This is true. Not always true if you are an American citizen.
At least some of his cost was covered by donations, that's a plus.
In Oregon a convicted murderer in the state pen was given a heart transplant by medicaid. Yes, he was an illegal.
That's my whole beef with this is the federal law. Federal law should not force people to aid criminals....and I believe those here illegally are criminals.....that's why the word "illegal" is used.
I may sound heartless, but you cannot think of these issues emotionally...you have to use thoughts and logic or else you warp the debate.
All it took was you showing up and pinging the 'bitter apologist list' for this thread to deteriorate.
"for this thread to deteriorate."
That's the plan!
So how is this destitute family going to afford anti-rejection medicine and ongoing medical care? My wife is a kidney transplant recipient. Her Rxs are several $hundreds a month.
I don't like it, but if I was a father in the same position, I'd do the same thing if I could. Parents instinctively do everything they can to help their children survive. Don't blame the parents, blame our system.
Aren't organs matched to a particular patient? How does anyone know if this organ would have went to an American to begin with? More importantly, why can't we send Vicente Fox the bill!
Good question.
They would normally have to find a way. The fact that they're destitute does not play into it, they are here in this country illegally and it is not up to US taxpayers to pay for their medications.
Does the US government pay for your wife's medications? Or do you have to pay? Even if the US government pays for yours, you are a US citizen, not an illegal immigrant.
That is the key issue....they came here and broke the law and are now being rewarded for it at US taxpayer expense.
Ooooo-kay.
No, and yes.
And I realize that, I'm just throwing more info into the situation, and wondering if that isn't next.
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Alan Gustafson
Statesman Journal
Oregon taxpayers are shelling out more than $120,000 a year to provide life-saving dialysis for a condemned killer.
Horacio Alberto Reyes-Camarena was sent to death row six years ago for stabbing to death an 18-year-old girl and dumping her body near the Oregon Coast.
At the Two Rivers Correctional Institution in Eastern Oregon, Reyes-Camarena, 47, gets hooked up to a dialysis machine for four hours three times a week to remove toxins from his blood. Without dialysis, he would die because his kidneys are failing. Each dialysis session costs $775.80 for treatment and medication, according to Corrections Department figures. At that rate, his dialysis costs $121,025 a year.
Born in Mexico on June 30, 1955, he entered the United States in 1969. He was 13. The Mexican immigrant worked as a restaurant dishwasher in San Antonio, Texas. He later toiled in farm fields in California and Oregon. Following a well-traveled path taken by migrant workers, Reyes-Camarena ventured into the Willamette Valley to pick fruit. He progressed from picker to field boss.
Reyes-Camarena was 40 when he committed the brutal crimes that left one woman dead and another forever scarred by violence. During summer 1995, he was employed as a farm foreman in Woodburn. That’s where he met Angelica Zetina, 32, and her sister, Maria Zetina, 18. On Sept. 17, 1995, Reyes-Camarena agreed to drive the sisters to Washington to help them find work. But after reaching the Oregon Coast, he drove south instead of north on Highway 101.
Stopping the car near Sea Lion Caves outside Florence, Reyes-Camarena attacked Angelica Zetina. He stabbed her 17 times, then pushed her down an embankment. She survived, and a hunter later found her walking along the highway. Maria Zetina’s stabbed body was found near Reedsport. In October 1996, a Douglas County jury found Reyes-Camarena guilty of aggravated murder.
After spinal surgery, Reyes-Camarena returned to finish his trial. A jury sentenced him to die by lethal injection.
A right to treatment - Ask Reyes-Camarena why taxpayers should finance a kidney transplant to extend his life, and he pauses to consider his answer. Peering through sunglasses that shade his sensitive eyes, he said he is legally entitled to the same medical treatment that is provided in the “free world.
http://organtx.org/ethics/prisoners.htm
Thank God there are more people like the ones who donated, than people like you. Someday one of your family members may need help to stay alive and hopefully you'll get to learn first hand what real Christians and Americans are like. Do you want your daughters to be as cold hearted and cruel as you?
Again, you're bringing emotion and skewed facts into this thread.
My daughters, my wife and myself are LEGAL UNITED STATES CITIZENS. This man and his family are ILLEGALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.
I'm glad that he's getting donations, but it still does not change the fact that this family broke the law and the US taxpayers will still have to pay part of the bill.
Emotions aside, this is a case of a family breaking the law and getting rewarded for it.
And you really need to know that calling me names like "cold hearted" will not work or cause me to change my stance that this family is criminal.
So you would let the little boy die. That says everything about you that anyone would care to know.
There we go.
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