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Militants Kidnap Three Iraq Officials
Associated Press ^ | January 8, 2005 | Dusan Stojanovic

Posted on 01/08/2005 4:45:04 AM PST by AntiGuv

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1 posted on 01/08/2005 4:45:04 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv
These people aren't "militants". They are terrorists. It's distressing that the AP seems so intent on preserving a kind of anti-American pseudo-neutrality that they can't call a spade a spade.

Yeah, I know it's been said before. It just makes me angry.

2 posted on 01/08/2005 4:59:06 AM PST by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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To: Mad Dawg

Our military needs to go house to house, and kill all males they find concealing weapons in their houses. We need drones out 24x7, snipers on all the roofs killing anyone sneaking around back alleys or bushes beside the road (with boxes, guns, etc.), and paying TOP DOLLAR for information. We might be doing this, but i never hear about it. We need to be flattening the enemy like the war was still on. Bush isn't up for re-election, and Cheny doesn't want the job, so there should be no problem.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 5:02:57 AM PST by mudblood
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To: AntiGuv
Is this the result of security redeployment due to the "visit" of JoKe? The original VC Hero.

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4 posted on 01/08/2005 5:03:48 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: Mad Dawg
This stuff just ticks me off!

Is there no end to these creatures.

It seems to me that all the candidates need to be flown out of the country and radio and TV ads need to be run for them. I don't know that we can protect all the candidates. To allow these guys to pick off all the ones they don't like is to allow them to alter the election field to be more of what they want.

This burns me up.

5 posted on 01/08/2005 5:04:42 AM PST by Rocketman
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To: mudblood

All the public officials need large guard forces; aw, hell, then they'd just car bomb them.


6 posted on 01/08/2005 5:05:47 AM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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To: rawcatslyentist

For every terrorist act, we NEED to take out 3 guys in Guantanamo and behead them on AlJazeera network and pour pigs blood all over their bodies. That would send a powerful message! But, our senators are fighting over a memo on AbuGharab instead and trying to destroy the reputation of a good man attempting to become the first hispanic Attorney General...


7 posted on 01/08/2005 5:07:21 AM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: Mad Dawg

How about we call them cold-blooded serial killers?


8 posted on 01/08/2005 5:39:17 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Yes, and vaporize Mecca.


9 posted on 01/08/2005 5:41:42 AM PST by brushcop (American first, last, always--no hyphens here.)
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To: mlc9852

You can call them all you want.

But as long using the terms like terroroists, thugs, killers and the kind, you may well misslead yourself...

In every strategy the greatest danger is to UNDERESTIMATE the enemy...

You wont loose anything to call them a well trained and organised group of soldiers and prepare against them accordingly.

But if you send the US solders to fight some idiot diehard braindead idiots, you have to be prepared to the event that many of these soldiers never come back alive.

If the main strategy is based on to fight some serial killers, then I do not think a reasonable solution.

I know that is not easy not being emotional after the news like these, but let's not fool ourself.

There is an army in Iraq, opposing the US presence.
They have seemingly unlimited resources and large numbers.
They are able to constantly increase the daily attacs, in numbers and in accuracy.
They have better position in gathering intelligence than the US.
They choose the type of fight, the location and the place (well...often...).
They eliminating those iraqis who are ready to cooperate with the US...

I know these are tough things but that's why Rumsfield sent a team to re-assess the situation in Iraq...

Because if you try to protect the soldiers there, you need to give them accurate info about the situation, and give them protection accordingly...


10 posted on 01/08/2005 6:57:36 AM PST by bozot
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To: Mad Dawg
These people aren't "militants". They are terrorists.

Why is it so difficult for Reuters, AP, NYT, etc. to understand the difference?

5.56mm

11 posted on 01/08/2005 7:00:23 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: princess leah

For every terrorist act, we NEED to take out 3 guys in Guantanamo and behead them on AlJazeera network and pour pigs blood all over their bodies.

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So for every Iraqi attack we should kill three Afghani?

Great way to take the moral high ground!


12 posted on 01/08/2005 7:04:39 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: gortklattu

I would suggest taking the top Iraqi officials to an underground secure site until after the election. That way, car bombs won't be an issue. Not knowing who the "rats" are is a problem. Why can't they keep information secret over there? Maybe one of you military guys can tell us.


13 posted on 01/08/2005 7:08:19 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Rocketman
It seems to me that all the candidates need to be flown out of the country and radio and TV ads need to be run for them.

The problem here is that there is no electricity in most of Iraq, and if there is for few hours, the people do not use it to wach TV, but to do some work, turn on the fridge, cook, etc...

Then also there is a problem of the "team" of the candidates, they automaticly become targets as soon the important man leaves the country.

14 posted on 01/08/2005 7:08:26 AM PST by bozot
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To: mudblood

kill all males they find concealing weapons in their houses

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I think most houses are allowed to keep a firearm for protection.

Killing people for upholding their right to bear arms does not sound very American.


15 posted on 01/08/2005 7:11:59 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Why can't they keep information secret over there?

How would you organise a "secret campagn" for a democratic election?

For how many hundreds of candidates?

Do not forget, there supposed to be free and democratic election if you expect anyone to accept the result.

16 posted on 01/08/2005 7:14:37 AM PST by bozot
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To: bozot

Your statement needs some perfection.

There is planty of electrical capacity in Iraq, most of it going to the power grid. While I appreciate your opinion on the situation in the middle east, I would more appreciate that you are accurate in your statements.


17 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:11 AM PST by T. Rustin Noone (T. Rustin Noone)
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To: mudblood
Our military needs to go house to house, and kill all males they find concealing weapons in their houses

All Iraqi's are permitted to own an AK-47, but our troops have been conducting these types of searches for pretty much the entire time we've been in Iraq. The problem is that we don't have enough troops to secure the country. Another 100,000 or so would help.

18 posted on 01/08/2005 7:29:17 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: T. Rustin Noone
There is planty of electrical capacity in Iraq, most of it going to the power grid. While I appreciate your opinion on the situation in the middle east, I would more appreciate that you are accurate in your statements

There are numerous blogs written by people living in Iraq, a common theme is the lack of reliable electricity in the country, including in urban places such as Baghdad.

19 posted on 01/08/2005 7:31:19 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: T. Rustin Noone

As much I kow of the Iraqi electic situation that most of the generated electricity going to the industry and the population gets the two hour on six hour off periods.
The ratio may changes by time, but that is the general reading...

The frequent attacks are on the power systems are the strategy of the terrorists to undermine the trust in the present( and future ??) authorities.

That goes also with the fuel shortage - there are often long queues at the petrol stations.

I guess the general problem with the Iraq situation is the huge effort what trys to paint much rosier pictures than the reality. But if you face the facts that from the average child-mortality to the basic food supply almost everything is in worse shape than in Saddam's time you may see why the terrorist getting support from the public.

I think once we admit that the initial approach to the situation was wrong and continuing that would lead to disaster, we could develop a real "winning" strategy over there.

The resistance to the US forces and ideas are higher than anticipated and the general public's suspicions about the US interests are greater than previously thought.

We could not blame every difficulties on those "few diehards" forever...
They rather look immortal if we add up all the US firepower and the time spent to kill them.

And we do not want to do a free advertisment for them.... do we ?


20 posted on 01/08/2005 7:47:26 AM PST by bozot
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