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Hiphop Turns 30: Whatcha celebratin' for?
The Village Voice ^ | January 4, 2004 | Greg Tate

Posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:58 AM PST by billorites

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1 posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:58 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
Yes hiphop, whose stirring strains will be heard a hundred years from now when Duke Ellington has long been forgotten.
2 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:50 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Oh, its *capitalism* that turned hiphop into sleazy trashtalk. Why yes, of course.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 5:58:26 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: billorites

Say what you will, I don't think there's a single person on this forum who would debate the merits of this screed with Mr. Tate without a heavily armed posse backing him/her up.


4 posted on 01/08/2005 5:59:02 AM PST by Archangelsk (Plain, simple soldier. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Hiphot, music of the semi-literates.


5 posted on 01/08/2005 6:01:03 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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To: billorites

* snort *

6 posted on 01/08/2005 6:02:29 AM PST by martin_fierro (</pith>)
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To: agere_contra
Yo!!!!

Capitalism is right! $120 for this CD?!


7 posted on 01/08/2005 6:02:52 AM PST by streetrepair
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To: billorites

How long before it hits the "Oldies" stations?


8 posted on 01/08/2005 6:05:17 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: billorites

i think it's kind of cute how these rufftuff rapsters grunt/sing about killing and raping until they make it big like sniff doggy poop or ice t, THEN they start showing up in 'family fare' movies and commercials and acting oh so nice and polite .... until the VIBE awards come up ... what a load of poopy


9 posted on 01/08/2005 6:10:49 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
I always liked Will Ferrell portraying Robert Goulet as he sang the diddies from Snoop and Dr. Dre. Trying to put any lyrics from to real song is surreal.

GOULET...

10 posted on 01/08/2005 6:13:38 AM PST by harbinger of doom
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To: billorites

Something calling itself "Hip Hop Nation" was supposed to swing the election for Kerry. I guess they had too much ganja Monday night, slept in Tuesday and showed up to vote Wednesday.


11 posted on 01/08/2005 6:17:02 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Their women give good lamentation, maybe we can conquer them again sometime.)
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To: billorites

What a load of manure. Hiphop is to music what a McRib sandwich is to barbecue: A distant relation at best. There have been so many talented black musicians, ranging from Louis Armstrong, to Duke Ellington, to Cab Calloway, Jimi Hendrix, and Smokey Robinson, that to group hiphop in with these greats is an insult to them! The hate, misogyny and sheer racist venom spewed forth from the average rap/hiphop CD is such that if it were to come from say, Twisted Sister (and we all know Dee Snider wouldn't spout that crap), there would be a huge outcry to ban such trash. Unfortunately, hiphop tends to appeal to the stupid and the tasteless who need something to legitimize their bigotries. God help this society if (c)rap is going to be around another thirty years.


12 posted on 01/08/2005 6:23:58 AM PST by Bombardier (Jihad, Nazism....Umma, Deutsches Reich.....no diff.)
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To: Pittsburg Phil
From Nat Cole to gangsta rap.

Progress in the late 20th century. :o(

13 posted on 01/08/2005 6:29:35 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Bombardier
Unfortunately, hiphop tends to appeal to the stupid and the tasteless who need something to legitimize their bigotries

Unfortunately, it appears to appeal to thousands (millions?) of young whiggers ... explain THAT!

14 posted on 01/08/2005 6:35:41 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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Unfortunately, it appears to appeal to thousands (millions?) of young whiggers ... explain THAT!

I believe it was explained:

Unfortunately, hiphop tends to appeal to the stupid and the tasteless who need something to legitimize their bigotries

15 posted on 01/08/2005 6:41:43 AM PST by PallMal
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To: Bombardier

Excellent points you made there.

This white guy (me) longs for black singers and musicians to once again sound off with tunes emulating those from Mo-town in the 60's and 70's.

I guess I'm just gettin old....hehehee

(C)rap = fingernails on a chalkboard.


16 posted on 01/08/2005 6:42:04 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: iconoclast

Hiphop is the soul of a whole people, openly on display for all to see. Some say it confirm stereotypes. Some don't. What YOU say?


17 posted on 01/08/2005 6:45:08 AM PST by ReadyNow
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To: Bombardier
There have been so many talented black musicians, ranging from Louis Armstrong, to Duke Ellington, to Cab Calloway,...

Ah, yes....

======================================

"I went down to the st james infirmary
Saw my baby there
Stretched out on a long white table
So sweet...so cold...so fair

Let her go...let her go...god bless her
Wherever she may be
She can look this wide world over
But she’ll never find a sweet man like me

When I die want you to dress me in straight lace shoes
I wanna a boxback coat and a stetson hat
Put a twenty dollar gold piece on my watch chain
So the boys’ll know that I died standing pat

I want six crap shooters for pall bearers.
Chorus girl to sing me a song.
Put a jazz band on my hearse wagon.
Raise Hell as I roll along.

Now that I've told my story,
I'll take another shot of booze.
And if anyone should happen to ask you,
I've got those gamblers' blues. "

18 posted on 01/08/2005 6:52:41 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ReadyNow

It's an American style of music that will eventually evolve to the mainstream.


19 posted on 01/08/2005 6:54:53 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: billorites

I remember buying this "old school" LP years ago and reading a review of it in The Face (a brit-cool mag). They said something to the effect "Of course it will all be horribly dated in a year, but enjoy for now."

Oh well...

20 posted on 01/08/2005 7:06:42 AM PST by avenir
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