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To: JohnHuang2

The AP-Ipsos poll conducted 3-5 Jan shows George W. Bush's overall job approval at 49%. There is a real possibility that he will make history and be inaugurated with a majority of the population in disapproval. The sad fact is that he is fundamentally disliked by a LOT of people, and his response (or lack thereof) to the tsunami won't even show up as noise in the poll numbers.


13 posted on 01/08/2005 2:29:25 PM PST by HardTarget
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To: HardTarget

Around here, we are more likely to pay attention to a Gallup poll than to anything from AP. But since you are a newbie, you may not have realized that.

FYI: 49%-49% is NOT a majority either approving or disapproving and 52% is a MAJORITY.

Does anyone else smell ozone?


14 posted on 01/08/2005 2:39:37 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: HardTarget

If the AP told me it was raining, I would look outside and see for myself before I would believe them.


16 posted on 01/08/2005 2:44:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: HardTarget
The AP-Ipsos poll conducted 3-5 Jan shows George W. Bush's overall job approval at 49%. There is a real possibility that he will make history and be inaugurated with a majority of the population in disapproval. The sad fact is that he is fundamentally disliked by a LOT of people, and his response (or lack thereof) to the tsunami won't even show up as noise in the poll numbers.

I don't put a great deal of credence in any polling for any purpose (look how poorly most of the pollsters did in the recent election, even with exit polling), but even so, I think that many people approve of President Bush -- he was the first incumbent since President Reagan to get a majority of the popular vote -- and his handling of the recent tsunami crisis has been excellent.

The ill-considered mouthings by Mr. Egeland have backfired as far as I can see, and Americans of every stripe have taken umbrage at what was a silly swipe at our generosity.

I think that all Americans approve of the President's handling of the tsunami disaster relief, particularly since his take-charge, get-it-done actions resulted in the very rapid formation of a coalition of the regional powers that did get it done. I haven't read any criticism that I remember of the President from these shores, though I am sure that some loony-lefty of the Ted Rall stripe has printed something criticizing our President. If there is any shred of credibility to any polling efforts, I am sure that these polls will reflect the popularity of the President's actions.

18 posted on 01/08/2005 2:52:54 PM PST by snowsislander
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BREAKING . . . We no longer need to concern ourselves with these bogus polls -- PRESIDENT BUSH WAS RE-ELECTED WITH A RECORD SETTING 62,000,000 VOTES AND THE FIRST MAJORITY SINCE 1988 (to include a majority of votes in 81% of ALL counties in the US)!!

FLASH . . . The country has moved from a 50:50 split in 2000 to a 52(R):47(D/I) split in 2004! [If we eliminate Democrat voter fraud from the numbers, the President garners a 5-pt margin of victory vs the 3-pt 'official' margin!]

THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS SECOND TERM . . . HE IS FREE OF THE CONSTRAINTS IMPOSED BY THE SPECTER OF RE-ELECTION . . . HE IS FREE TO LEAD, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WILL DO!!


THE FOLLOWING IS DVWJR'S ANALYSIS OF THE BOGUS AP POLL:

Well, we just had an election where we have data from 13,660 respondents in the 2004 Presidential election poll. Let's forget that 'bad' exit poll results used for election night predictions that the MSM used and use the data the way it was supposed to be used, the characterize the voters...

2004 Exit Poll Vote by Party ID:



37% Republican
37% Democrat
26% Independent

Source: CNN: US President/National/Exit Poll data for November 2nd, 2004.

Ok, so what was the party affiliation breakdown for the 1,001 Adults, (836 Registered voters) for the Ipsos-Public Affairs AP Poll dated January 3-5, 2005. The poll has a margin of error of 3.1% for all Adults and 3.4% for Registered voters. Now the poll sample for Registered voters was:

AP/Ipsos Project #81-5139-09


43% Republican
49% Democrat
08% Independent

Source: Associated Press/Ipsos-Public Affairs - Project #81-5139-09 January 3-5, 2005.

That party affiliation breakdown used by AP/Ipsos does not seem to match the latest characterization of the American Voting public according to the Exit Poll data collected from 13,660 voters on November 2nd, 2005. In fact, it looks as if the AP/Ipsos poll is a bit slanted shall we say in favor of the Democrats. Gee, what happened to all the Independents? Did they just disappear for the next four years???

Furthermore, to help get the 49% to 49% approval/disapproval for President Bush, the AP/Ipsos poll chose this poll to sample "all Adults" instead of the "Registered Voters" who have been answering this question since February, 2004. What are the odds of that happening?

The MSM never stops trying...


24 posted on 01/08/2005 4:43:28 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: HardTarget
The sad fact is that he is fundamentally disliked by a LOT of people, and his response (or lack thereof) to the tsunami won't even show up as noise in the poll numbers.

Sounds like your sad OPINION. The FACTS are that he was elected by 52% of the people, and is liked by even some who didn't vote for him.

25 posted on 01/08/2005 4:43:33 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: HardTarget

What exactly do you claim that the President's lack of response was?


26 posted on 01/08/2005 4:45:08 PM PST by bvw
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