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Bush, Clinton Now Friends
NewsMax ^ | 1/9/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/09/2005 12:55:28 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
I think Newsweek has misinterpreted Bush's politeness and a deeply held belief that the office of the President, and by extension all former presidents, should be accorded a measure of respect with friendship.

I do hope you're right...
61 posted on 01/09/2005 3:43:46 PM PST by Barney59 ("This reelection is as secure as a double-knot tied in wet rawhide.")
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To: wagglebee
"...one of his top 10 priorities in the White House would be to give the Oval Office "one heck of a scrubbing."

The scrubbers were probably wearing Hazmat suits. The rug was either burned in a stll-making blast furnace, or sent to NV for deep burial, along with spent nuclear fuel rods.

63 posted on 01/09/2005 5:17:16 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Howlin

What did you use to post those pix? I rarely can't see pix, but those were beyond my Mac.


64 posted on 01/09/2005 5:38:40 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Michael.SF.

"I seriously doubt it if Bill Clinton has one "true friend" in the world. Instead he has hundreds of acquaintances..."

During one rather dysphoric episode in my career I worked with a program for drug addicts. This is what they all said: "I don't have friends, I have associates."

I think you nailed Billyboy quite acccurately.


65 posted on 01/09/2005 5:43:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: wagglebee

I think it kills clinton more for Republicans to be 'nice' to him than in-his-face rude. He knows they know the truth. He just has to take the 'niceness' and all it really means. It's the pity factor. Personally, nothing could possibly be worse for a ego-maniac than to know all the people he tried to destroy pity him.


66 posted on 01/09/2005 5:52:19 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: mowkeka

We agree on this much, Clinton can be a tool. And I'm sure he'd agree he needs to pull out at the right times.

But this is more Rovian centering, for reasons I don't understand. I'm getting frustrated and feeling like the only time conservative things can get done is never, since we have to wait for the next election and make sure X gets elected, so we can't do anything too "crazy conservative" since "the voters wouldn't like it, they're moderates." When is there ever going to be a better chance to pull out the big guns?

Instead, we're disavowing the nuke option, appointing more worthless commissions to study tax reform, and sucking up to Billy Jeff. GREEAAAAT. Four more years, whoopee, yay, hoorray, yippee, Pismo Beach, hoooray...


67 posted on 01/09/2005 11:51:12 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: mountaineer

I sure hope you're right, but I'm sick of seeing BJ with the President when I know it's just rehabilitating that traitor.


68 posted on 01/09/2005 11:52:19 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Howlin
I particularly love the way Cheney is looking at Clinton in the first one!

Cheney: "Arkansas boy, you have your overcoat collar up like Dracula, come to think of it you did suck the blood from the body of integrity in government."

69 posted on 01/10/2005 3:26:38 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

That's a great point. I've felt the same way. We can't get things done until the NEXT election...
Time to start getting things done NOW.


70 posted on 01/10/2005 8:51:03 AM PST by mowkeka
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To: wagglebee

This is just plain yucky. There's no rationalization for this. I'm also disgusted by the TV ads with GB41 and the Big Creep . . . supposedly a PSA.

Bush is trying to send some message with this "fraternizing" and I don't think it's totally innocent and well-intended.


71 posted on 01/10/2005 2:21:18 PM PST by KiloLima (Amnesty is to "Guest Worker Program" as Terrorist is to "Insurgent.")
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To: Howlin

Newsmax is not a credible source.


72 posted on 01/10/2005 2:23:56 PM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Taliesan; Howlin
Newsmax is not a credible source.

Boy, Taliesan, you speak the truth! I fail to understand why Newsmax is even a source, since all it does it regurgitate the latest news with theier own spin. It resembles nothing more than a gossip column.

President Bush ALWAYS gives people enough rope to hang themselves. Either Clinton will take the chance offered him, or he will reveal himself to be the vulgar poltroon that he is.

I, myself, hope that the President and his father are trying to get Clinton to be the person he should have been. (Thanks to a freeper for that idea, an I apologize for forgetting your name.)

73 posted on 01/10/2005 3:03:04 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: wagglebee
For two men at opposite ends of the political spectrum, the relationship between the 43rd and 42nd presidents has grown surprisingly warm and personal over the last six months.

Opposite ends of the political spectrum! Just how does the writer define the political spectrum?

What are the major issues of our times? Certainly not those that go to which party or group of political associates can best carry out specific programs. The major issues go to the direction of Society; the relation of Society to Government; the legal bases of Government; the relation of the individual to Government; the role of the family; the roles of the sexes--after all that is the very first human issue that the Bible addresses, so no one can suggest it is not important;--and in the complex world, the role of nations in respect to each other, etc..

On the really imporant--generation spanning--issues; Bush and Clinton are on the same side at least 5 times as often as they are on different sides:

l. Take the idea of using America's armed forces to promote Democracy? Clinton did it in Haiti, Bush is doing it in post-conquest Iraq.

2. Take so basic an issue as the roles of the sexes, towards each other, and towards Society? Clinton put young women in harms way in the Armed Forces; Bush has left them there.

3. Take protection of the existing American nation. Neither Clinton nor Bush showed any real concern with stemming the tide of incongruous--and illegal--immigration across the Southern Border. Clinton even taunted American traditionalists in his final State of the Union, about the changing ethnicity of America. Bush has shown no difference of opinion on that.

4. Clinton delivered a veritable paraphrase of George Washington's Farewell Address, on the eve of leaving office--but in the form of a direct repudiation of Washington's ideas on foreign policy, though without acknowledging what he was doing. But Bush's statements on foreign policy are scarcely any closer to Washington (and Jefferson's) traditional American foreign policy.

5. On Federal involvement in local education: The men may differ on the immediate details; but both support the concept. (Contrast that with the talk in Reagan's time, of abolishing the Federal Department involved.)

6. And who started the push for expanding the already hopelessly out of control Medicare fiasco--I am being kind, because it is not only an economic fiasco, it is also both Unconstitutional, as well as socially destructive? But Clinton's approach was trumped by Bush's on Prescription Drug subsidies. That is hardly evidence of being at opposite ends of anything, however.

7. Both Clinton and Bush have mocked traditional values on Homosexuality--although Clinton has been the more extreme. It was Clinton who first declared June, "Gay Pride Month." But when after putting up with it for two years in the Justice Department, Attorney General Ashcroft tried to stop the annual flaunting of perversion, he was overruled by the White House. That is not being the opposite to Clinton--not by a very long shot.

I could go on. But what is the point. Of all major issues, it is only on Abortion and maximum tax rates, that there is any real difference. But, even there, Bush's more conservative approach is muted by excessive spending, which ultimately must either doom his kinder, more gentler tax rates, or subject the beneficiaries of those tax rates to the ravishes of inflationary spirals. On the question of fiscal responsibility, Clinton is actually the more Conservative.

The pretense of a true dichotomy where none exists, is one of the ways the Media "pundits," as well as the academic Leftists who so influence them, keep real debate in America to a minimum. I do not want to rain on anyone's parade, but we need to get a real debate going, or we are going to drift--at an accelerating pace--into the ash heap of history. The "fans" cheering the lions devouring unfortunates in the Roman Colliseum, even in the latter days, thought their Government was doing just fine, also.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

74 posted on 01/10/2005 3:03:26 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Howlin
I like the expression on President Bush's face in the second photo. LMAO

Looks like a professional poker player getting a read on his opponent. LMAO

75 posted on 01/10/2005 4:59:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: wagglebee

The Bushes are friends with the Clintons?! You know what this means ... that Hillary Rodham Clinton Will Become The 44th President of The United Sates of America!! Unbelievable!
I will pray for America! And Canada too!


Greetings from Canada.


76 posted on 03/10/2005 7:36:01 AM PST by Saberwolf2020
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To: Saberwolf2020
The Bushes are friends with the Clintons?! You know what this means ... that Hillary Rodham Clinton Will Become The 44th President of The United Sates of America!! Unbelievable! I will pray for America! And Canada too!

I'm praying too, but it's frightening how it's looking like she's next in line for the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton? apparent dynasty we've got going on.

77 posted on 11/04/2007 7:03:19 PM PST by incindiary
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To: incindiary

This is about 6 weeks after Bush’s second inauguration.

I was appalled in ‘01 when Bush came into office and gave Clinton a pass on just about everything.

And now look where we are.

Frightening


78 posted on 11/04/2007 7:13:52 PM PST by Syncro
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To: wagglebee

Well, Jorge Dufus Bush is exactly like a big spending, let the illegals in, Socialist Dimocrat, so why not be pals with Klinton. He’s pals with Fat Ted Kennedy.


79 posted on 11/04/2007 7:14:52 PM PST by RetiredArmy (The Marxist's Dimocrat Party: Party for and by terrorists, Marxists, Socialists and Homos.)
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To: Syncro

I posted this a week ago, see if it makes sense:

Posted by casino66 to dbacks
On News/Activism 10/30/2007 4:56:48 PM EDT · 24 of 51

I have a theory.

It has always bothered me that BJ became so friendly with GW’s dad. My theory was to get an ally in ‘the family’ to go soft of BJ because ‘he is such a nice guy.’ I seem to recall a quote in a book I read about the early Ark days when a particular journalist was giving BJ a particularly bad time. Hirraly invited him to lunch one day, cozied up to him some way(threatened) and he eased off on them. Same strategy applies with BJ and 41.


80 posted on 11/04/2007 7:28:07 PM PST by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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