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CIA terminates Dr. K with extreme iciness (Kissinger)
New York Daily News ^
| 1/10/05
| JAMES GORDON MEEK
Posted on 01/10/2005 2:13:51 AM PST by kattracks
WASHINGTON - The CIA has told Henry Kissinger to kiss off, saying his services as an informal adviser to Director Porter Goss are no longer needed. The pink slip came in the form of a terse communiqué from Goss to Kissinger - the vaunted diplomat and counselor to Presidents - and other members of an intelligence advisory board that meets several times a year, Newsweek magazine reported yesterday.
The council of wise men recently sacked by the new CIA honcho includes 9/11 Commissioner and ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), who heads New School University in New York; former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), and ex-Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. William Crowe. Kissinger told the magazine he had "no view" on the dismissals, and another member of the panel, ex-CIA and FBI Director William Webster, insisted he was not offended.
Jettisoning the advisers marked the latest controversial move by Goss, the Republican ex-House Intelligence Committee chairman busily shaking up the spy agency.
In recent weeks, the spy chief has replaced several senior officials in the clandestine service and also stopped nightly counterterrorism meetings attended by the intelligence community. This week, former top Bush-Cheney campaign aide Jennifer Millerwise takes over as chief spokeswoman at the agency.
Originally published on January 10, 2005
TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; cia; ciareform; crowe; goss; kerrey; kissinger; nunn; webster
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1
posted on
01/10/2005 2:13:51 AM PST
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
When Porter Goss means "clean house", he
means CLEAN HOUSE!
This is probably a smart move, the biggest drawback being these jilted academics (especially Bob "Interrogate Condi like she is a criminal" Kerry) will now rush like maniacs to every camera on the continent claiming the CIA is "bungling" the job. You know the press sycophants will only be too eager to parade them ad infinitum.
2
posted on
01/10/2005 2:19:09 AM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: kattracks
Kissinger will no doubt pop up as a pundit...then in four yrs
He'll be Bach
3
posted on
01/10/2005 2:58:38 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: kattracks
Eliminating Bob Kerrey from the inner circle cannot be a bad thing.
4
posted on
01/10/2005 3:16:45 AM PST
by
Bahbah
To: joesnuffy
If he is still alive, in 4 years he will be 85.
5
posted on
01/10/2005 3:20:11 AM PST
by
MKM1960
To: kattracks
I don't think much of Kissinger.
He stood for appeasing the Soviets, Proping up arab dictatorships and appeasing the vietnameese.
Good to see him go, he has a failed worldview (IMO).
6
posted on
01/10/2005 3:25:12 AM PST
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/terrorism.htm)
To: joesnuffy
He's already a pundit..Greta has him on her show all the time.
7
posted on
01/10/2005 3:33:56 AM PST
by
mystery-ak
(God Bless our troops.)
To: kattracks
William H. Webster has been and empty suit of epic proportions ..... even for DC ... sleepy,bumbling and inept, and most recently when appointed by Bush (on a recommendation no doubt from his father) now shown to be hopelessly conflicted (read: corrupt)
.
8
posted on
01/10/2005 3:40:02 AM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: kattracks
Looks like a roomfull of leaks have been plugged.
9
posted on
01/10/2005 3:43:56 AM PST
by
angkor
To: kattracks
If there was
ever a member of a hidden government or behind the scenes cabal
running all sorts of self serving scams it was Kissinger.
He most likely IMO should be in jail.
To: mystery-ak
Agreed. Kissassinger is a nasty pile of cow flop.
11
posted on
01/10/2005 3:59:09 AM PST
by
HMFIC
(The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
To: kattracks
Christopher Hitchens insists Dr. K should be tried as a war criminal.
12
posted on
01/10/2005 4:10:18 AM PST
by
BTCM
To: Recovering_Democrat
Bob Kerrey didn't actually interogate Dr. Condi Rice, he interrogated a woman he called "Dr. Clark." Couldn't even get her name right.
It is entirely possible that this group was the source or encouragement for the recent anti-Bush leaking from the CIA.
13
posted on
01/10/2005 4:23:57 AM PST
by
SubMareener
(Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
To: kattracks
William Crowe??? What the hell was he doing on there in the first place. He was just one of Bill Clinton's sycophants.
14
posted on
01/10/2005 4:26:49 AM PST
by
Casloy
To: mystery-ak
I hope this doesn't mean he will be there and other shows more often now. I can only understand every 8th word he says.
To: kattracks
While I'm not in love with Dr. Strangelove, I wonder what the political purges at CIA do to increase our protection from al-Qaeda.
16
posted on
01/10/2005 4:41:04 AM PST
by
Ranger
To: kattracks
The council of wise men recently sacked by the new CIA honcho includes 9/11 Commissioner and ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), who heads New School University in New York; former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.) Wow! A bureaucrat who doesn't feel the need to carry the empty luggage from the former regime! And who feels perfectly justified in purging enemy combatants from within his own ranks!
How refreshing.
17
posted on
01/10/2005 4:41:04 AM PST
by
IronJack
To: traviskicks
"Good to see him go, he has a failed worldview (IMO)."
Yes, Kissinger is a part of the NWO establishment, and all that is wrong with that aspect of things. Not to say others are not, but it is still good to see that he has lost influence.
To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Kissinger and Nixon preserved and extended American power at a time when America appeared to be in decline as a superpower. Their greatest move was opening China as a counter to the soviets. They also achieved a Vietnam military victory and peace that was only undone by the democrats in Congress AFTER Nixon's impeachment. They stood up to the Soviets and saved Israel by putting NATO on a nuclear war alert in 1973. Nixon was a staunch anti communist and was able to negotiate with them only because everyone trusted him to do it. They also, by the way, were able to keep secrets when they wanted to.
I think many of the comments here about Kissinger belonging in jail, etc. are ill informed. Kissinger helped save this country at a critical time in history.
19
posted on
01/10/2005 5:10:12 AM PST
by
Williams
To: kattracks
This is GOOD NEWS!!!
Peter Goss has risen even further in my estimation. for what it's worth
20
posted on
01/10/2005 5:41:32 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
To: Williams
You expect too much. Most people, including Freepers, parrot only what they read or hear in the MSM.
They don't see the strategic victories accomplished by Nixon and Kissinger.
21
posted on
01/10/2005 5:43:35 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
To: Recovering_Democrat; joesnuffy
Goss says it's his opinion that the CIA should be a secret organization. I can't help but concur. Hard to have a "public spy agency." It's almost oxymoronic.
In any case, all the folks who are mentioned as having been canned have a couple things in common. But one thing ties this package together.
There isn't a one of them that doesn't love a TV camera, anywhere, anyplace, anytime.
22
posted on
01/10/2005 5:46:37 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: Williams
"I think many of the comments here about Kissinger belonging in jail, etc. are ill informed. Kissinger helped save this country at a critical time in history."
I won't go so far as to say that Kissie should be in jail but PLEASE making his a 'Saviour' is really really reaching!
To: IronJack
These things should have been done four years ago
24
posted on
01/10/2005 5:51:19 AM PST
by
ThanhPhero
( Nguoi hanh huong den La Vang)
To: Williams
Kissinger was very good in his time buthis worldview has not changed. Nixon was the best available for foreign policy. It's just too bad he was a full blown liberal domestically.
25
posted on
01/10/2005 5:54:57 AM PST
by
ThanhPhero
( Nguoi hanh huong den La Vang)
To: kattracks
Adm. William Crowe It's also good to get rid of this Clinton lackey.
To: Recovering_Democrat
27
posted on
01/10/2005 6:24:05 AM PST
by
ConservativeMan55
(DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
To: PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; devolve; Grampa Dave; yall
28
posted on
01/10/2005 6:29:28 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: Spook86; BIGLOOK; xzins; MineralMan; elfman2; ThanhPhero; xusafflyer; tht73a; NY Attitude; ...
Good for Goss!
Some of these "We love the World" clowns have been polluting intel across the board for decades.
29
posted on
01/10/2005 6:46:55 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(Help to insure freedom with a monthly donation to Free Republic!)
To: SpookBrat
I'm wondering about your take on this and on Goss' performance to date.
30
posted on
01/10/2005 6:49:25 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: xzins
To: Bahbah
Eliminating Bob Kerrey from the inner circle cannot be a bad thing.Ditto on former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.).
32
posted on
01/10/2005 6:52:39 AM PST
by
b4its2late
(Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
To: angkor
That's what it sounds like to me...Wonder how many more there are?
33
posted on
01/10/2005 6:54:48 AM PST
by
faux_hog
To: BTCM
Yeah, but of course not Bob McNamara.
34
posted on
01/10/2005 6:59:49 AM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
To: Grampa Dave
35
posted on
01/10/2005 7:00:21 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: Recovering_Democrat
Crowe, Kerry, Kissinger three guys with cold war attitudes and partisan RATS. Kissinger was alway an inch or two away from the appeaser role of RATS.
36
posted on
01/10/2005 7:11:18 AM PST
by
q_an_a
To: angkor
yep- my feeling too- Porter is plugging leaks.
37
posted on
01/10/2005 7:12:06 AM PST
by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: All
...and also stopped nightly counterterrorism meetings attended by the intelligence community. In the haste to trash Kissinger, I think folks missed a topic that should be addressed. I do not view the suspension of these nightly meetings to be a good thing.
Kissinger and Nixon opened up China as a counter to the Russian threat at that time. They did not oversee a time when our technological and military secrets were gifted to that nation. They did not oversee a time when our nation economicly supported the world's leading communist state.
38
posted on
01/10/2005 7:14:36 AM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
To: kattracks
Wow!
Admiration for Goss increases 1000 fold.
Now just do the same to Scowcroft.
39
posted on
01/10/2005 7:36:22 AM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: traviskicks
He stood for appeasing the Soviets, Proping up arab dictatorships and appeasing the vietnameese. And you left out his piece de resistance which is becoming a multimillionaire shilling for the still very much in power Chinese communists.
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posted on
01/10/2005 7:38:03 AM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: traviskicks
I don't think much of Kissinger. Me either. Somehow he's always struck me as a classic Beltway Establishment type with a big vocabulary and small cajones. Not a cowboy. Not an inspiring figure of resolve or courage.
His appeasement of the Soviets with "détente" was altogether wimpy and Euro-like.
And let's not forget he was appointed by the biggest RINO of them all, Richard Nixon.
41
posted on
01/10/2005 7:41:15 AM PST
by
TonyRo76
(American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
To: Williams
Utter nonsense that you actually must use flight of fantasy to acheive.
42
posted on
01/10/2005 7:42:12 AM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: kattracks
"The CIA has told Henry Kissinger to kiss off, saying his services as an informal adviser to Director Porter Goss are no longer needed."
Good news a long time coming. I never liked Kissinger.
43
posted on
01/10/2005 7:49:35 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: kattracks
"The council of wise men recently sacked by the new CIA honcho includes 9/11 Commissioner and ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), who heads New School University in New York; former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), and ex-Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. William Crowe. Kissinger told the magazine he had "no view" on the dismissals, and another member of the panel, ex-CIA and FBI Director William Webster, insisted he was not offended."
FINALLY - Kerrey & Crowe - ESPECIALLY...rto
44
posted on
01/10/2005 8:05:26 AM PST
by
visitor
(...and the dems wonder why they lost and will continue to lose, good riddance)
To: All
Poor Dr.K. he must feel like a 'Pinetocheta'. Kissinger as opposed to his protege Scowcroft has actually been pretty supportive of the Admin., at least publicly. Does anyone think we would have had the piece of garbage dumped on us by the 9/11 Commission with Kissinger as Chair? A 'dog's breakfast' as one observer noted.
Most of those named in the news item are useless except for maneuvering around Beltway circles, which is what Tenet was a master at. Kissinger, on the other hand, is someone worth keeping on the Agency's Rolodex, even if he stinks like a bad Chinese restaurant at times.
Comment #46 Removed by Moderator
To: TonyRo76
I wonder how many Freepers calling Nixon a RINO were ALIVE or old enough to vote during Nixon's presidency. I guarantee many of you grew up thinking Ronald Reagan was the first President. Nixon was one tough SOB of a law and order president who took on the left directly, was despised by the main stream media, and stood up to the Soviets and for our allies in spades. The left destroyed Nixon for his failure to surrender in Vietnam. Unlike today's politicians, Nixon simply said the leftists were wrong misguided kooks. He started by prosecuting Alger Hiss, for God's sake, for which they all hated him. His whoile slogan was that the elites hated him but he was supported by the "Silent Majority." And it was Nixon's Southern Strategy that turned the South republican.
47
posted on
01/10/2005 9:04:23 AM PST
by
Williams
To: kattracks
Good move on Goss' part. The CIA screwed up BIG TIME and they need new personnel.
48
posted on
01/10/2005 9:10:10 AM PST
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: OldFriend
IMO Nixon was one of the greatest politicians America has ever produced.
49
posted on
01/10/2005 9:12:45 AM PST
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: Williams
Nixon was a better American that the overwhelming majority of the lot we have today.
50
posted on
01/10/2005 9:15:17 AM PST
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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