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To: Centurion2000

NO your implying something completly different.

The Early Pagan Church was and is a lie The True Christians followers of the word from Jesus to the Apostles to the rest of the world has nothing to do with his message of salvation and eternal life.

Crusades and the Holocaust has nothing absolouetly nothing to do with Jesus Christ and his message to the entire human race.


159 posted on 01/10/2005 11:49:18 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: missyme
The Early Pagan Church was and is a lie The True Christians followers of the word from Jesus to the Apostles to the rest of the world has nothing to do with his message of salvation and eternal life.

Crusades and the Holocaust has nothing absolouetly nothing to do with Jesus Christ and his message to the entire human race.

Seek help. There is this thing called reality, there is this other thing called your opinion.

They certainly do not match.

164 posted on 01/10/2005 11:52:46 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: missyme
The True Christians followers of the word from Jesus to the Apostles to the rest of the world has nothing to do with his message of salvation and eternal life.

Oh heck, what is the TRUE message then ?

167 posted on 01/10/2005 11:53:48 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: missyme

Historical revisionists like to leave out that the Muslim hordes invaded and plundered Asia Minor and North Africa - where most Christians lived in the world at that time - long before the Crusades began. The Crusades, to a large extent, were a defensive war in their initial purpose.


168 posted on 01/10/2005 11:54:05 AM PST by truthfinder9
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Gibson and Moore have been mentioned together for some two months now. Every time an awards show comes up "The Passion" and "F9/11" are immediately put to the forefront of discussion and talked about like no other movies were produced that year. Media shows and publications constantly compare/contrast them as being polar opposites of the film spectrum. Both films were difficult to get released to the mass public due to studios being too concerned with backlash. Both were released amid huge controversy from critics calling the films anti-semitic or anti-american. Both were insanely successful due to everyone's predictions of flopping. All of these things considered and people are shocked that Gibson would make a statement saying he feels a sort of strange kinship with Moore??


185 posted on 01/10/2005 12:05:56 PM PST by Yonkers Finest
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To: missyme

"Crusades and the Holocaust has nothing absolouetly nothing to do with Jesus Christ and his message to the entire human race."


Of course the Holocaust was nothing but pure evil and had nothing to do with any religion. I don't know why you used that in your example above.

But the Crusades were based in the religion of Christianity and the participants who fought, slaughtered, killed, and were killed by Muslims were Christians.

Sorry, but you can't rewrite history just because some of the facts are unsettling.

for instance, in 500 years, are people going to try to say that the 9-11 perps weren't 'real' Muslims?


219 posted on 01/10/2005 12:58:12 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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